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pics from headers on smallblock
« on: November 22, 2006, 05:11:59 PM »

hey guys, who got some pic's from dodge darts with headers bolt on the engine( engine in offcourse)

i have some trouble get them in

i did get some headers for free,that's nice for sure.....but is it possible they are bigblock headers???

these headers:

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« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2006, 05:36:52 PM »

can you take a pic of them standing up? it's hard to tell when they are laying down but from this angle they look like big block headrers

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« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2006, 05:53:09 PM »

can you take a pic of them standing up? it's hard to tell when they are laying down but from this angle they look like big block headrers

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thanks gene...
i will do that tomorrow.

what is the big difference between big and smallblock headers?

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« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2006, 05:59:04 PM »

Hi Alfred,

Here's how I solve header problems.......I don't use them on any of my cars, except for the 70 Cuda race car project. I use the factory small and big block HP cast manifolds on everything else.
Just my 2 cents worth about headers. Tongue

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« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2006, 05:59:50 PM »

Port spacing and the way they get routed around evreything. Generally BB headre will have Larger tube going into a collector where as SM headers are smaller tubes. (1 5/8"  is typical for a small block.)
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« Reply #5 on: November 22, 2006, 06:50:54 PM »

Port spacing and the way they get routed around evreything. Generally BB headre will have Larger tube going into a collector where as SM headers are smaller tubes. (1 5/8"  is typical for a small block.)

the tubes are 1 5/8 outside diameter.....so they are small block headers than??

maybe these headers are for another body type mopar??

or are they all equal?
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« Reply #6 on: November 22, 2006, 06:56:35 PM »

Hi Alfred,

Here's how I solve header problems.......I don't use them on any of my cars, except for the 70 Cuda race car project. I use the factory small and big block HP cast manifolds on everything else.
Just my 2 cents worth about headers. Tongue

Richard

hey richard,thanks again for your help with the decoding on my dart..

those manifolds is an option to.....are they expensive,hard to get?

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« Reply #7 on: November 22, 2006, 08:52:21 PM »

Port spacing and the way they get routed around evreything. Generally BB headre will have Larger tube going into a collector where as SM headers are smaller tubes. (1 5/8"  is typical for a small block.)

the tubes are 1 5/8 outside diameter.....so they are small block headers than??

maybe these headers are for another body type mopar??

or are they all equal?


from the size of the pipes they are SB headers. once you get abetter picture up im sure we can figure it out. by any chance is there a manufacturer's name on them and a part #
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« Reply #8 on: November 22, 2006, 08:55:20 PM »

Don't mean to hijack, but has anyone used shorties on a small block in a Dart? I've tried Hedmans and Flowtechs; they just weren't going to happen because of the power steering....
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« Reply #9 on: November 22, 2006, 10:45:15 PM »

 ???Just wondering what kind of car and are you trying to install them with the engine already in the car???
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from the size of the pipes they are SB headers. once you get abetter picture up im sure we can figure it out. by any chance is there a manufacturer's name on them and a part #
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on the collector flange is a number( both headers) left is 036 and right is 039.

they are hooker headers.

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« Reply #11 on: November 23, 2006, 02:57:20 AM »

???Just wondering what kind of car and are you trying to install them with the engine already in the car???

me?Huh?

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« Reply #12 on: November 23, 2006, 03:14:39 AM »

2 more pic's.....length is different too......this isn't great \/][





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« Reply #13 on: November 23, 2006, 04:03:48 AM »

Those look like SB truck headers.... \/][
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« Reply #14 on: November 23, 2006, 04:54:44 AM »

Those look like SB truck headers.... \/][

could be,they won't fit...
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« Reply #15 on: November 23, 2006, 05:51:32 AM »

Here's a pic of what the majority of low-buck A-Body headers look like -- this is the driver's side one -- big difference from the one you have.  Sorry, don't have a pic of the pass side one, but it looks close to the pass side one you have...may just have less of an angle.

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« Reply #16 on: November 23, 2006, 06:03:20 AM »

Here's a pic of what the majority of low-buck A-Body headers look like -- this is the driver's side one -- big difference from the one you have.  Sorry, don't have a pic of the pass side one, but it looks close to the pass side one you have...may just have less of an angle.



looks great on that engine,now i have to find other headers or manifolds.

thanks for the help,

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« Reply #17 on: November 23, 2006, 06:09:17 AM »

Thanks and no prob on the help...that's what we're here for.  BTW, if/when you do get a set of headers, expect to beat the snot out of them for clearance issues you will encounter with the torsion bars, drag lnk, pitman arm, idler arm, etc...seems everything wants to hit them. hammer
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« Reply #18 on: November 23, 2006, 06:13:34 AM »

Thanks and no prob on the help...that's what we're here for.  BTW, if/when you do get a set of headers, expect to beat the snot out of them for clearance issues you will encounter with the torsion bars, drag lnk, pitman arm, idler arm, etc...seems everything wants to hit them. hammer
i know, i did the header thing before on my charger hammer
maybe i have to look for hp manifolds.
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« Reply #19 on: November 23, 2006, 08:03:11 AM »

Are all the flange ports on the headers rectangular? Or are the center ports square with a corner cut off (so to speak)? The shape does seem to look like truck headers.
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« Reply #20 on: November 23, 2006, 10:32:06 AM »

Are all the flange ports on the headers rectangular? Or are the center ports square with a corner cut off (so to speak)? The shape does seem to look like truck headers.

hi,the centerports are square with a corner off......yep.

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« Reply #21 on: November 23, 2006, 10:35:59 AM »

this is a real pain.......maybe i have to get some hp manifolds like richard....they will fit...
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« Reply #22 on: November 23, 2006, 10:43:31 AM »

You got the headers for free so once You know what they are for sure put them on E-Bay and make a buck off them
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« Reply #23 on: November 23, 2006, 10:51:08 AM »

You got the headers for free so once You know what they are for sure put them on E-Bay and make a buck off them

that's right,what will be a fair price for some headers?

these are new,but repainted..

have to find out on what car they fit...

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« Reply #24 on: November 23, 2006, 11:18:57 AM »

Just start the bidding at $25 and see what happens anythings a profit just make sure you charge enough for shipping
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« Reply #25 on: November 23, 2006, 05:00:32 PM »

oke,the headers will go...

is this any good stuf......good for power too?

much easier to install,i think Grin

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