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Tire Choice
« on: December 01, 2006, 03:23:38 AM »

So I'm about to puchase rims and tires for my dart sport, the rims are weld racing draglites 15 x 10 and I'm wondering what you'd recomend for a tire, the car will see a bit of the road and some of the strip too, I'd say about 50/50 so I'm looking for a good tire that could do both since I only have money for one set, the rims are already drilled for slicks so, i'd guess I'd lean more towards slick/ bias ply end of the spectrum. Also how wide should I go? Looking for 10s eventually but right now I'd be happy with 12s, also i'm going to tub it to the frame and I'm planning on getting cal-tracs, thanks for the advice.
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« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2006, 03:40:30 AM »

Any advice here? The rims I purchased are already have been drilled for rim screw so does that mean that i have to use rim screws and basicly can't use a radial, ie have to use a tube-type tire? Any advice on how wide to go?
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« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2006, 09:43:29 AM »

I've never screwed tires to the rims before. Have you thought about BF Goodrich Drag T/A's?  I'll never drive a bias ply tire again. I ran my Charger with Radial T/A's on the front and Drag T/A's on the rear. Worked pretty good. I don't know if you can rimscrew Drag T/A's.
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« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2006, 09:48:07 AM »

If you're going the drag radial route, I highly recommend the M/T drag radials.  I'm very happy with mine.  I'd contact a tire store in your area that sells slicks about the rim screw deal.  Don't know how that will affect things.

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« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2006, 11:15:17 AM »

well should I go radial or should I go bias is my first question I guess.
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« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2006, 03:41:08 PM »

any ideas here? Bias or Radial?
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« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2006, 05:55:22 PM »

If you're asking me, I'd say radials. They're more modern. Is it a street strip car?
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« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2006, 06:46:49 PM »

I'd run the M/T drag radials also, that's what I'm going to buy when I get to that stage on my 70. I won't buy BF goodrich anymore because they are owned by a french company.  Tongue
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« Reply #8 on: December 06, 2006, 10:08:20 PM »

will I be able to run a radial tire in my rims with the rim screws?(it already has the holes for them) And yes it will be a street strip car.
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« Reply #9 on: December 06, 2006, 10:09:25 PM »

yea but my yokahamas are not made here but there perform awsome
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« Reply #10 on: December 07, 2006, 11:01:20 PM »

yea but my yokahamas are not made here but there perform awsome

I have a Yokohama tire as a spare for my 73 and it's made here in the US.  Lips Sealed
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« Reply #11 on: December 08, 2006, 11:13:07 AM »

I'm going with DiamondbackIII redlines  (Radials - made by Cooper Tire), but mine is primarliy steet and show.

P205/7oR14 in front
P245/60R14 in rear

FOr drags  I always like the M/T products.  I used racemaster slicks back in the 60's and they were the best.



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« Reply #12 on: December 08, 2006, 11:29:21 AM »

So whats recomended for a street strip car? I was looking at the MT sportsman pro or something  of that nature, or should i go for more of a race tire? Or Radial?
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« Reply #13 on: December 08, 2006, 06:55:36 PM »

yea but my yokahamas are not made here but there perform awsome

I have a Yokohama tire as a spare for my 73 and it's made here in the US.  Lips Sealed

 Grin i just figured because of the name lol bash
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« Reply #14 on: December 08, 2006, 08:11:34 PM »

Bias                         Radial

more traction           more tread life
lighter                     handles better
                             don't need tubes

If you are limited in tire size and you want straight line traction, use the Bias ply. If you use a bias ply on the rear, match with a bias on the front, or else it will handle like crap. Bias also are slippery in the rain, be carefull.

I've used a few different brands of drag radials and bias drag tires on daily drivers and always prefered the bias for straight line traction. I've also used Hoosier bias ply sticky tires that had a tread, and the were better than drag radials in rain, and on the dragstrip. Use tubes (they leak) and srew them on, since you already have the holes.

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« Reply #15 on: December 13, 2006, 05:14:21 AM »

Thanks TimH, is there any brand, or type of tire that you've had good luck with, i liekt he look of hte M/T sportsman pros, but what about the "quicktime" series. Sorry about all the questions i just wana get the best stuff for the moeny i have....or don't have... Wink
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« Reply #16 on: December 13, 2006, 04:23:04 PM »

STAY AWAY FROM THE QUICK TIMES.  i had quick time pros on my dart, maybe 5 months, 3-4 months it was in the garage. didnt get to drive or even do a burnout. they are cracked everywhere. any used set of hoosiers ive ever seen was cracked all over. 2 of my friends had bought hoosiers new and they did the same thing. way too fast.  people on this board and other mopar boards have had the same issues. and have emailed and called. this has been going on for years. when i contacted them, they asked for the serial number and date of purchase. when i gave that info to him, he told me he would take them back as he "THOUGHT" they were from a batch that had some ozone checking issues. i had to dismount and pay to ship to them. then my car would sit for who knows how long with no rubber.  and who knows if id even be ahead at all. i might get the same crap back. i itred a few different approaches to get the new set and then ship the old ones back, they wouldnt go for it.  i had a set of m/t et drags for my dart since about 01 or 02, they still dont have a single crack in them. they sat inside, outside and mosy of the time in the trunk of the car. i wouldnt care so much if i got some use out of them, but i think it is just rediculous. i sitll have them on the car, it still hasnt been driven and i have no idea what im going to do. when the time comes, ill probably just buy a set of et streets. if you are going to drive a lot of street miles, go for some type of radial.
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« Reply #17 on: December 13, 2006, 09:38:42 PM »

Hey 74DDS, I've had good luck with the Hoosier Quick Time and the Quick Time Pros. The Quick times work about the same traction wise as a drag radial, but don't need to be heated as much. The BF drag radials last a long time, handle well but require a pretty good burn out to get them to hook. The Mickey Sportsman work OK as well. I'm mini tubbing my Valiant this winter and for my money I'm gonna fo with M/T E.T. Streets. I have yet to see a street tire hook as hard and be as consitant.

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« Reply #18 on: December 13, 2006, 09:51:23 PM »

Im also on the list of wont use Hoosiers again. Mine cracked and dry rotted after 4 months.

I replaced them with a set of smaller M/T drag radials and they hooked and rode a ton better. Also my rims were drilled for screws. I didnt run them with the radials. They wont leak if they were drilled right.
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« Reply #19 on: December 13, 2006, 10:04:59 PM »

I have always used Hoosier QTP's, cheaper than M/T ET streets, and work just as good, they are not screwed to the rims and I do not use tubes.  I had to add air about 3 or 4 times last summer.  A set only lasts me 3/4 of a season before I replace them just to be on the safe side, usually sell the to street legal racers for cheap.  Last season I bought some M/T ET street radials, and was surprised.  They worked 100 times better than the BFG drag radials.  Best 60 foot on 275/60/15  Et streets was 1.61, and on slicks or QTP's was 1.60.  Smiley  I also have a 2 year old pair of Hoosiers that looke like new except for the tread.  No cracking at all, but they don't see 100 degree heat.

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« Reply #20 on: December 13, 2006, 10:31:10 PM »

So mickeys are the way to go huh, what do you guys recomend for a street legal front tire to match? Thanks
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« Reply #21 on: December 14, 2006, 11:16:22 PM »

M/T makes a front tire also.

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« Reply #22 on: December 15, 2006, 02:51:57 AM »

Is it street legal? And what tire do you personaly recomend?
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« Reply #23 on: December 15, 2006, 06:05:22 PM »

M/T front tires are all bias ply. You dont want to run them with a radial on the rear. Just use any old radial tire. No need for fancy on the front.
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« Reply #24 on: December 15, 2006, 09:51:05 PM »

If you choose to run bias on the rear use bias on the front. There pretty narrow, but do work on a 6" rim nicely.They're called Mickey Thompson Sportsman Front. Look them up on their web site

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« Reply #25 on: December 19, 2006, 02:44:49 AM »

cool thanks, so I guess it's M/T all around then.
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