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« on: January 19, 2007, 10:54:41 PM »

What is the best way to remove undercoating? the last project I used a propanr torch and a scraper(pain in th a**)so i was wondering if anyone has used a chemical or high heat pressure washer
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Re: undercoat removal
« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2007, 11:00:53 PM »

ive used a steam genny before,  paint stripper is much faster, there is no easy way.
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Re: undercoat removal
« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2007, 10:46:24 AM »

I used a torch. A buddy of mine said he sprayed the underside with deisel. What a mess / odor that must have made.
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« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2007, 10:55:43 AM »

ya i like to get all the big chunks off with the torch first....and then final cleanup can be made with chemicals
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« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2007, 11:49:31 AM »

eastwood makes a product that sofens it up so you can remove it without the torch
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Re: undercoat removal
« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2007, 12:43:56 PM »

I used a propane torch for the bulk layer and bought a gallon of Goof-Off at Home Depot. Put Goof-Off in a spray bottle to apply. It dissolved the residue immediately which I then wiped off with rags.
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Re: undercoat removal
« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2007, 02:34:40 PM »

I used a propane torch for the bulk layer and bought a gallon of Goof-Off at Home Depot. Put Goof-Off in a spray bottle to apply. It dissolved the residue immediately which I then wiped off with rags.
I did a similar thing, but I used a torch and snapon 3 scraper set (curved ones and hooks ) then had the whole body sandblasted.. But goofoff sounds like a great idea.
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« Reply #7 on: January 20, 2007, 05:13:15 PM »

Personally, I don't care for the idea of an open flame around that stuff. Im using a decent heat gun and scrapers, then will sandblast.  Have already tried the process inside a front fenderwell, and seems to be just what's needed. (Now if only I could win the lotto so that I could retire, and have ample time to actually get more done on the car.)

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« Reply #8 on: January 20, 2007, 06:30:01 PM »

Number one thing is time.  I used a torch.  Probably not the healthiest idea, but it did the trick.  I am not sure if I am going to get it blasted or not, not to excited about sand in every nook and cranny for the next 30 years.
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« Reply #9 on: January 20, 2007, 10:34:50 PM »

get your freinds to help lol but if you use a torch don't  use any chemicals hammer
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Re: undercoat removal
« Reply #10 on: January 21, 2007, 03:21:55 PM »

If it's really hardened the Eastwood stuff doesnt work save your money, I used a good heat gun and scraper followed by mineral spirits....

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« Reply #11 on: February 27, 2007, 04:31:23 AM »

I did a 67 Barracuda, I tried solvent and it would'nt touch it. Seems it was pariffin based. I used a heat gun and scraper. My 62 Savoy was a regular tar based undercoat and I used the heat gun/Scraper again, then sand blasted it in my garage. "Man What a Mess"  Don't Do That !!!  Jack
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« Reply #12 on: February 27, 2007, 08:56:36 AM »

I used a propane torch for the bulk layer and bought a gallon of Goof-Off at Home Depot. Put Goof-Off in a spray bottle to apply. It dissolved the residue immediately which I then wiped off with rags.
  agree agree agree That is the way to do it.
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Re: undercoat removal
« Reply #13 on: February 27, 2007, 09:39:36 AM »

i just did my fenders. i used paint stripper, and sandblasted the jamb and headlite area. i ran a light grinder on the back side of the skin, and hand sanded the knooks and crannys with 80; then i coated them with rust bullet http://www.rust-bullet.com/  its designed to go over sound rust and bare metal. stuff works great. now i can do what ever i want to these.

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« Reply #14 on: February 28, 2007, 07:48:19 PM »

will sand blast/media blast take the undercoating off?
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« Reply #15 on: February 28, 2007, 08:22:07 PM »

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« Reply #16 on: March 03, 2007, 03:33:39 PM »

duster 440 your a genuius goof-off is awsome on that stuff even on 40 years of grease build up and road junk duster i can see metal on the bottom of my car.
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Re: undercoat removal
« Reply #17 on: March 05, 2007, 03:23:15 PM »

I used a propane torch for the bulk layer and bought a gallon of Goof-Off at Home Depot. Put Goof-Off in a spray bottle to apply. It dissolved the residue immediately which I then wiped off with rags.

I just finnished removing the last couple of brackets and hard lines off the GT,... i'm gonna torch and scrape, thenI think I'll try that Goof-Off too.

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Re: undercoat removal
« Reply #18 on: March 05, 2007, 11:41:55 PM »

duster 440 your a genuius goof-off is awsome on that stuff even on 40 years of grease build up and road junk duster i can see metal on the bottom of my car.


is this the same as paint stripper?
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« Reply #19 on: March 06, 2007, 12:20:41 PM »

i did it cold with a 3/4 wood chisel dull of coarse and a little elbow greese  the undercoating is old and brittle it chips off fast and easy faster than the torch method
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« Reply #20 on: March 06, 2007, 09:46:37 PM »

Hey dubb, are you going to put anything over the rust bullit, or just leave them ?
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« Reply #21 on: March 06, 2007, 09:55:11 PM »

Hey dubb, are you going to put anything over the rust bullit, or just leave them ?
gonna scratch em a little for adhesion, shoot some 3m paintable body shutz (with an undercoat gun) and topcoat body color. i do the outside of the inner fenders, the back side of the bumper filler/front valence, and rear wheelwells the same way. i try to keep the underbelly somewhat smooth, but some areas will get the shutz. everything body color.
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« Reply #22 on: March 06, 2007, 10:37:10 PM »

I used a 4" angle grinder with a wire wheel. Never again. Friend used a heat gun with a scraper that worked really well.
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« Reply #23 on: March 06, 2007, 10:52:28 PM »

Hey dubb, are you going to put anything over the rust bullit, or just leave them ?
gonna scratch em a little for adhesion, shoot some 3m paintable body shutz (with an undercoat gun) and topcoat body color. i do the outside of the inner fenders, the back side of the bumper filler/front valence, and rear wheelwells the same way. i try to keep the underbelly somewhat smooth, but some areas will get the shutz. everything body color.
A13, heres what i use. its rocker shutz, body shutz is a different product. http://www3.3m.com/catalog/us/en001/auto_marine_aero/automotive_aftermarket/node_GS6J8TCPY7gs/root_GST1T4S9TCgv/vroot_GSLPLPKL4Xge/bgel_HZKL4TB570bl/gvel_6DTWTJQPBBgl/theme_us_aad_3_0/command_AbcPageHandler/output_html
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« Reply #24 on: March 07, 2007, 07:30:29 PM »

i dont have any rustbullet. but i did just get some por-15. can i paint my fenders with it? then rough it up and use the 3m paintable coating, then body color?
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« Reply #25 on: March 07, 2007, 08:59:29 PM »

Thanks dubb. I'm thinking that the rocker shutz is a good idea. Thick enough to protect the under side of the fender from small pebble and rock dings.
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« Reply #26 on: March 07, 2007, 09:23:38 PM »

i dont have any rustbullet. but i did just get some por-15. can i paint my fenders with it? then rough it up and use the 3m paintable coating, then body color?

yup....i used to use a rust converter before i found rust bullet. as long as the por 15 sticks you be ok.  adheasion is the key......
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also. has anyone had any problems with body color sticking too undercoating? does it resis stone chips better? what kind of paint?
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also. has anyone had any problems with body color sticking too undercoating? does it resis stone chips better? what kind of paint?
thats why i removee the undercoating and replace it with the shutz material. make sure you get the paintable kind. i use the same paint as on the car, a quality urethane
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