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[VPrace]

Why are these kits so spendy? Whats so special about them?  When the mustang II  kits are 1200 what makes them worth 3 times the money?

[Bill_Reilly]

You're kidding right?

[NYrr496]

   Holy crap.

[abodyjoe]

man thats a hell of a first post....

[MVRCorp]

Wasn't it Dean Martin that said "Ain't that a kick in the head?"

[Bill_Reilly]

Well, it's like saying, why are kitchen cabinets $8000 when I can get a plastic tackle box for $9?

[70 Dustpan]

Why are these kits so spendy? Whats so special about them? When the mustang II kits are 1200 what makes them worth 3 times the money?

Yea, why buy a Rolls Royce when a Geo is so much cheaper.   

[MVRCorp]

Anytime someone bitches about my prices I just tell them "my competitors know what their product is worth" You just can't compare apples to oranges. Most of us expect perfection....only some of us are willing to pay for it. If he ever saw an Alterkation in person I'm sure he would have a different opinion. Give him a break.......he's a newbie.

[VPrace]

well it was not meant to be a flame, just a legit question?  there are several places with complete kits using tube arms and mustangII racks and spindles and brakes for less than $1500, so what makes this crossmember worth $2000?

[fasttcars]

ok first   you have to consider all the fabrication,cutting welding..labor to put a arm style suspension into a mopar the kits you are refering to are very none specific     to start off  1.the alter-k is  bolt in

[NYrr496]

 

Holy Crap.

[fasttcars]

Holy Crap.

looks like your on a role

[Bill_Reilly]

Ok, enough joking. I'll be serious

There are no other places that sell anything even remotely as complete as this sytem, no other places that sell anything that remotely fits these cars, no other places that have engineered around almost any concievable engine/accessory combination, no other place that optimizes geometry to actually work correclty, and MOST importantly, No other competing product on the planet is designed to be trouble-free for as long as you own it, race use, street use, or otherwise.  Building street rod or drag race only kits would be much cheaper and easier. Making something stand up to public streets in a 4000lb car is an entirely different situation.

A quick example - the MII kits you refer to have a 1/2" bolt to hold the lower control arm on.  I didn't like that, so eventually we designed a 3/4" steel lower pivot shaft with 100% captured bushings that is absolutely bullet-proof, long-lasting, flex-free, and squeak free, and looks a whole lot nicer than a bolt.  Instead of a $5 bolt on each arm, I have a $68 greasable pivot system....times 2.  Every other part in the system is designed similarly, with comparably higher costs, it really does fit, and everything is COMPLETE - another problem with everything else on the market.  And the final problem with every other company, which I also fixed, is service. I happily hold hands with customers right through the install and tuning process as they need(if they need), and if they break something 2 years later, they can rest easy knowing that I'd STILL happily take care of them.
Last week I replaced for free, a set of lower control arms. The customer broke one somehow. Instead of sending one, I figured better safe than sorry in case the other was bent, and sent him a new pair, complete with all the hardware - this ensured that he'll be safe.  Why is this amazing?  He bought the system 4 YEARS ago.  Find another suspension company on the planet that takes care of customers like that.....
So, aside from seriously high quality parts, the quality of service is even higher.  If you buy something from me, it's for life.

If that doesn't answer the question...... oh well

[Evan]

well said. that sold me all over again on the alterK

[evstraus]

Today I purchased a $29.00 dollar lower steering column bushing from Bill. Even though it was a very small sale I could tell Bill was a guy that knew how to take care of a customer. Its getting harder and harder to find people out there that will take there precious time to explain things in detail and truly cares about the customer reguardless of the amount of the sale. Thank you Bill.

[duster-dan]

Even though i have'nt installed my kit yet, I think its worth every penny. Just for the SAFE Factor & the weight savings.

Than-You Bill, your the best..

Thanks Dan

[PinkE]

well it was not meant to be a flame, just a legit question?  there are several places with complete kits using tube arms and mustangII racks and spindles and brakes for less than $1500, so what makes this crossmember worth $2000?

YOUR LIFE ....that's what, and as Bill said, NOBODY stands behind his stuff like Bill does....

[Steve DeTar]

I don't think he realizes that is site is maintained by the same person who makes the AlterK.  That's why his question almost made me fall out of the seat.  Bill's AlterK isn't some cobbeled up junk, period.

[NYrr496]

I don't think he realizes that is site is maintained by the same person who makes the AlterK.  That's why his question almost made me fall out of the seat.  Bill's AlterK isn't some cobbeled up junk, period.

 That's exactly right. I'm sure he has no clue. Ya know... I was going to leave the suspension in my roadrunner all factory and use Firm Feel stuff, but after reading this I may have to step up also. I could tell it was a quality part, but I felt putting coil springs in a Mopar was less "Mopar". I feel I may stand corrected.

[dustertogo]

 I can't really afford an Alter-K for my Duster but I just got Bill's strut bars, A-arms, sliders, and master cylinder adapter plate. Stuff looks great and it was really quick getting here. Ordered on Saturday and got in Wednesday. In Calgary, Canada!! Can't wait to try it out. Thanks Bill.

[VPrace]

Ok, enough joking. I'll be serious

There are no other places that sell anything even remotely as complete as this sytem, no other places that sell anything that remotely fits these cars, no other places that have engineered around almost any concievable engine/accessory combination, no other place that optimizes geometry to actually work correclty, and MOST importantly, No other competing product on the planet is designed to be trouble-free for as long as you own it, race use, street use, or otherwise.  Building street rod or drag race only kits would be much cheaper and easier. Making something stand up to public streets in a 4000lb car is an entirely different situation.

A quick example - the MII kits you refer to have a 1/2" bolt to hold the lower control arm on.  I didn't like that, so eventually we designed a 3/4" steel lower pivot shaft with 100% captured bushings that is absolutely bullet-proof, long-lasting, flex-free, and squeak free, and looks a whole lot nicer than a bolt.  Instead of a $5 bolt on each arm, I have a $68 greasable pivot system....times 2.  Every other part in the system is designed similarly, with comparably higher costs, it really does fit, and everything is COMPLETE - another problem with everything else on the market.  And the final problem with every other company, which I also fixed, is service. I happily hold hands with customers right through the install and tuning process as they need(if they need), and if they break something 2 years later, they can rest easy knowing that I'd STILL happily take care of them.
Last week I replaced for free, a set of lower control arms. The customer broke one somehow. Instead of sending one, I figured better safe than sorry in case the other was bent, and sent him a new pair, complete with all the hardware - this ensured that he'll be safe.  Why is this amazing?  He bought the system 4 YEARS ago.  Find another suspension company on the planet that takes care of customers like that.....
So, aside from seriously high quality parts, the quality of service is even higher.  If you buy something from me, it's for life.

If that doesn't answer the question...... oh well

Thank you, That is a good answer to my question! and I wasn't trying to imply anything negative. 

[Capt Jack]

sure as hell made me wanna get one

[Bill_Reilly]

What surprised me most was that I checked out your site and saw all the circle burners - most of the modular wide 5 spindles on those cars are $600 EACH - just for a spindle. I was surprised, since you're familiar with those parts, that the cost of this stuff would shock you...

[MyCreation68]

It's all about you get what you pay for. You want a cheaply manufactured Mustang II suspension front clip thats going to require alot of maintainence and alot of downtime on your car because of the work required to keep it in good shape. Most of those kits are designed for street rods anyways and those cars only see maybe 100 miles a year and thats rolling on and off a trailer. I may not have the money right now to buy an alterk but as soon as I do get money to upgrade the suspension Bill's the first guy I'll call. I'd rather spend the money on something I know will work the first time I install it then something that I'll have to modify and change to make it even fit let alone make it work.

[g-cuda67]

  Sucks to walk in with such a loaded question yet so simple. Now when I look back and think of the prices for parts plus my own labor and when it's all done and it looks ALRIGHT  I see BIlls kits and everything else after that looks like crap! When I  realized what part integrity is and look at whats out there, I sware up down that I should have gone the alterK route. A little more money spent but the rewards are substantial in the long run.   

[Westernstar]

Bill,you have an awesome product.That said,if i were you i would not ship to a customer that lives in China.

[bbscamp]

How important / necessary is the front sway bar for the alterktion?   It obviously makes a real big diff. on the OEM front ends....but Bills is sophisticated right out of the box. 

I'm thinking about an alterktion for the 70 Chally.  The rear will be 8.75 with an OEM swaybar, and It will stay that way.  Ive got 2 stock front suspension......1 with sway bar.   I'm going to see what I can get for the 2 front ends.  I'm not sure of the value...but I bet I can put a pretty good dent into an alterktion by selling them off.

[Bill_Reilly]

I always recommend sway bar and power steering, especially on the B and E bodies for street use. Power steering is of course, personal taste, but the sway bar does make a difference.  Also keep in mind, it's what you're looking for.  The sway bar improves handling, but also adds a bit to ride harshness. Without a bar, if you get the shocks set right, it will ride like a Cadillac, but will act a bit roly-poly. The roll stiffness is higher than stock without the bar, so it's not as bad as the stock stuff either way, but there's a difference. If you get the bar, it only takes 5 minutes to take it on and off, so it's better to get one and have the ability to play with it.

How much more harsh it is depends alot on the weight of the car. A 3000lb Dart will see a substantial difference, while a 4200lb Hemi Cuda won't be nearly as harsh with one.

[440dstr]

well said. that sold me all over again on the alterK

[Crazy68Dart]

This is the best equipment, thats why.  You get what you pay for.  Bill is a great guy to deal with.  I had an issue with my upper control arms, and Bill rectified the problem immediately.  Even after I wrote somewhat of a pissy e-mail to him about the situation.  I then realized that it was not a big deal, and he really stands behind his products, forever!  I still appologize and feel like an idiot for acting the way I did.  I was a dumb kid then...    

You will not find a better, more well built system, and a great guy to deal with, period.