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20x9 - What will it take to fit?
« on: March 18, 2007, 07:04:40 PM »

Im thinking of running SRT8 rims, what would it take to fit these on my 68 Dart, they are 20x9 and come with 245/45/20 tires, but a lower sidewall is possible. Is it possible with the stock suspension, will i need an alter k? am i dreaming?

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Re: 20x9 - What will it take to fit?
« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2007, 07:54:16 PM »

Sorry for being off topic, but what size are the rims tires in that pic?
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Re: 20x9 - What will it take to fit?
« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2007, 08:02:10 PM »

those rims are 20", but its a photoshop I did. In reality, the rims may look a lot bigger. i simplay overlayed the rims over the existing rims, i did go a little larger, but in reality it may be even bigger than that. The back shouldnt be a problem, i can either move the springs in, minitub, or change the suspension to coilovers. its the front that im worried about. are there any tricks to fitting larger wheels?
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Re: 20x9 - What will it take to fit?
« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2007, 09:09:43 PM »

i don't know what it would take to make them fit, but i have one (1) of the exact wheels you have pictured on your car that i will sell you. i paid 200.00 plus shipping. you could use it to test fit. let me know. BTW, they are way bigger then the ones in your photo.................steve
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Re: 20x9 - What will it take to fit?
« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2007, 01:46:08 PM »

I love the way your car looks! I was going to paint mine Black with the Red Stripe and Red interior, your car is definately Bad-azz, looks great with those wheels, they sort of look like 18's would on that car.
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« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2007, 04:17:00 PM »

I love the way your car looks! I was going to paint mine Black with the Red Stripe and Red interior, your car is definately Bad-azz, looks great with those wheels, they sort of look like 18's would on that car.

I wish I could say its mine but its not, I just had a pic of a black car and it was a good side shot. Mine will be black though, its at the body shop now. Its also getting the GTS Stripe, and I already have the GTS Hood. I havent decided on interior, I want red but that means I have to change everything else in there too. I have the willwoods up front, its getting them out back when I get her back from paint, should look very similar. I also think they look like an 18" wheel would, If only they made the SRT wheel in smaller sizes
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Re: 20x9 - What will it take to fit?
« Reply #6 on: March 19, 2007, 04:51:53 PM »

Do you have any more pics of that car, I would like you to email them to me.
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Re: 20x9 - What will it take to fit?
« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2007, 06:20:42 PM »

I think the bolt pattern is 5x5 on those rims.. I had a SRT10 rim that was 5 x 5.5, dont know for sure but I dont think it is 5 x 4.5

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Re: 20x9 - What will it take to fit?
« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2007, 07:49:50 PM »

i know the 18"s off the regular hemi cars are 5x4.5, and i'm almost positive the srt wheels are too.
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Re: 20x9 - What will it take to fit?
« Reply #9 on: March 19, 2007, 08:48:15 PM »

o doubt it, those are almost 29 inch tall tires all the way around, but those rims are going to have way too much backspace to even fit on the car without a tire on it, no chance with some serious mods
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Re: 20x9 - What will it take to fit?
« Reply #10 on: March 19, 2007, 08:52:03 PM »

Good work with PhotShop.  You had me fooled...

I basically just did what you are talking about.  I requires a mini-tub job and moving the springs inboard (under the frame rails).  I put the details in the Tires/Wheels Combo section.  I have enough clearance to go to a 335/30 when my 305's wear out.  A 345 is too big for a 10" wheel (335 really is too).  A 345 really needs a 12" wheel, cheapest 20X12 custom offset I found was almost $1K each.  A lot of extra $ for 10-40mm wider tire. 

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Re: 20x9 - What will it take to fit?
« Reply #11 on: March 20, 2007, 10:16:26 AM »

All the charger/300 wheels are 5 X 115mm - 4.5"=114.3mm. It's a small difference, and the lugs fit on, but they're offset to the inside of the holes, so the lugs won't seat perfectly. I know lots of guys running them with no problems, but as a company, I could never recommend it for liability issues.  I'm working on some projects with the SRT brakes right now and we're going to redrill the stuff for a 4.5" pattern to make sure everything seats perfectly.
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Re: 20x9 - What will it take to fit?
« Reply #12 on: March 20, 2007, 03:20:46 PM »

o, i stand corrected, they just look like they have a ton of offset, still wont be able to run that combo in the front though, too tall
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Re: 20x9 - What will it take to fit?
« Reply #13 on: March 20, 2007, 04:05:50 PM »

Do you have any more pics of that car, I would like you to email them to me.

yah I have a few more pics of that car withough my photoshop mods. I added the rims and the stripe, original pics have torq thrusts and dart lettering on the rear quarter. pm me your email and ill send em over
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Re: 20x9 - What will it take to fit?
« Reply #14 on: March 20, 2007, 04:49:58 PM »

but i do love those rims and the srt-8 badge
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'72 Duster: daily driver in 3 seasons, paid for, insured by and gased up, all by my 17 year old salary

225, 7 1/4, working on 451, and 8 3/4
brakes, 11 3/4

60-0: 105 ft.
cornering gs: estimate: .90

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Re: 20x9 - What will it take to fit?
« Reply #15 on: March 20, 2007, 08:35:09 PM »

68 drop, that thing looks great! is there room to lower the back?
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« Reply #16 on: March 20, 2007, 09:43:42 PM »

Thanks.  Yes, I've already lowered the rear about 1inch or so since I took the pictures.  I was able to raise the front spring mounting locations to the top holes.  I still have lots of room to lower it, but I will have to remove leafs or buy different springs.  I didn't have the gas tank in when I took the pics, so I want to fill it with gas and drive it around before I make a judgement on lowering it more.  I want to get it close to level with a slight rake.  I wish now I would have bought the 335/30's, since it turns out I do have the room.  Oh well, I'll wear these 305's out soon enough...

I'm really happy with the way the DoctorDiff SVT big brake kit turned out.  I can't wait to see how it stops.  I'm waiting for an appraisal for insurance (along with a little more work). 

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Re: 20x9 - What will it take to fit?
« Reply #17 on: March 21, 2007, 12:23:47 AM »

It is a little tough to get a 9 inch wide rim to fit up front without cutting sheetmetal.  The diameter of the rim doesn't matter really, you just need to find the correct tire in order to stay with an overall diameter that fits.  I know that 17x8 and 18x8 rims fit just fine.  17x9 will fit with the right tire and the perfect offset so I assume 20x9 would too.

I've mocked up a brake kit with the 14 inch rotors from the new SR8 charger.  Looks pretty cool in an 18 inch wheel!
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Re: 20x9 - What will it take to fit?
« Reply #18 on: March 21, 2007, 05:26:43 PM »

its not the width, its the hight, 29 inches- you will be driving around like a monster truck
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'72 Duster: daily driver in 3 seasons, paid for, insured by and gased up, all by my 17 year old salary

225, 7 1/4, working on 451, and 8 3/4
brakes, 11 3/4

60-0: 105 ft.
cornering gs: estimate: .90

50% custom interior
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