"Glue" instead of weld patch panels?

[Mopartist]

Let me say up front: I'm not experienced with doing body work. I have a 65' Dart and just got rear quarters for it for replacement. Somebody was tellin me about a "glue on" technique; although they also had no experience with it. From what I understand; you can use a pneumatic "crimping" tool on the edge of the cut 1/2 inch smaller than the new panel. Then tack weld it in place using glue in between the tack points. I saw a recent article where something like this was done on floorpans; but on body panels? 
Does anyone here have a familiarity with this technique who could point me to a "how to" read?


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[QK TIME]

My Brother is a painter at a dealership, and they glue panels all day long there. That panel bonding adhesive is some bad ass  s##t

[jet-taz]

i used it to patch a small hole in my quarter panal. works great. but would not want to use it for a heavy older sheet metal.

[automan63]

Let me say up front: I'm not experienced with doing body work. I have a 65' Dart and just got rear quarters for it for replacement. Somebody was tellin me about a "glue on" technique; although they also had no experience with it. From what I understand; you can use a pneumatic "crimping" tool on the edge of the cut 1/2 inch smaller than the new panel. Then tack weld it in place using glue in between the tack points. I saw a recent article where something like this was done on floorpans; but on body panels? 
Does anyone here have a familiarity with this technique who could point me to a "how to" read?

  If you'd like to call me at my bodyshop on Monday, I'd be happy to explain, in detail, what we do here. There are do's and don'ts. BTW, I'm doing this very same thing to my scamp.  Jeff.

[Mopartist]

Maybe a pictorial "how to" in the tech pages? 

[automan63]

Let me say up front: I'm not experienced with doing body work. I have a 65' Dart and just got rear quarters for it for replacement. Somebody was tellin me about a "glue on" technique; although they also had no experience with it. From what I understand; you can use a pneumatic "crimping" tool on the edge of the cut 1/2 inch smaller than the new panel. Then tack weld it in place using glue in between the tack points. I saw a recent article where something like this was done on floorpans; but on body panels? 
Does anyone here have a familiarity with this technique who could point me to a "how to" read?

  If you'd like to call me at my bodyshop on Monday, I'd be happy to explain, in detail, what we do here. There are do's and don'ts. BTW, I'm doing this very same thing to my scamp.  Jeff.

  Ugh!! Would've been nice if I left a number huh ?   781-233-6047

[automan63]

Maybe a pictorial "how to" in the tech pages? 

Not a bad idea.

[Mopartist]

Let me say up front: I'm not experienced with doing body work. I have a 65' Dart and just got rear quarters for it for replacement. Somebody was tellin me about a "glue on" technique; although they also had no experience with it. From what I understand; you can use a pneumatic "crimping" tool on the edge of the cut 1/2 inch smaller than the new panel. Then tack weld it in place using glue in between the tack points. I saw a recent article where something like this was done on floorpans; but on body panels? 
Does anyone here have a familiarity with this technique who could point me to a "how to" read?

  If you'd like to call me at my bodyshop on Monday, I'd be happy to explain, in detail, what we do here. There are do's and don'ts. BTW, I'm doing this very same thing to my scamp.  Jeff.

  Ugh!! Would've been nice if I left a number huh ?   781-233-6047

Although i'm embarrassed to admit it; i don't have a cell; (so no free long distance minutes) I'll have to get one someday; but I'm concerned it'll become an obsession like my computer is. (My daughters cell seems to be surgically attached to the side of her head)

[automan63]

(My daughters cell seems to be surgically attached to the side of her head)

Maybe she tried to "glue on a panel" and the phone got in the way.

[Mopartist]

I thought it might be helpful if I posted some pics of the process "WHILE" I was looking for answers so others could see the progress. Of coarse this would be just the basic info; but it could get as detailed as one would need (maybe). Let's assume that since I will be putting full wheel well tubs in the car; the old ones have been cut away already.
Ok; so here's my project. No cutting has taken place yet. I ordered left and right patch panels from a guy on EBay. The first picture shows the car as is. The second picture is with the panel clamped to it for the sake of marking the outline.
I'll be using a flange tool; so my first question is ....after marking the outline of the panel; how far "in"  do you scribe the same shape for the purpose of cutting? (picture 3 Photoshopped for visual effect)
Next I'm wondering....Does the body get flanged and the patch panel laps over the body....Or does the patch get flanged, and slipped behind the body when it's time for bonding?



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[74swinger]

i used it to patch a small hole in my quarter panal. works great. but would not want to use it for a heavy older sheet metal.

The epoxy "glues" will be just as strong as welding in solid.  Nothing will every be as strong as one peice of steel though.

I use the the epoxy glue (Norton Speed Grip).  If it is put on right (not much can go wrong), you will not get it to break away with your hands, ever.  You need heat to soften the stuff.

You must use an epoxy primer to cover the glue, or need to use aan epoxy body filler to smooth it out.  Do not use polyester based fillers over the untreated glue - they will react and bubble bad.

[mellow yellow]

Panel bond 8115 Check your local body shop sopply store