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68Valiant
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Sliders
« on: December 27, 2005, 10:06:21 AM » |
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Anyone running the sliders on the rear leafs instead of the shackles? If so how are they doing, any comments are appreciated.
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70 Dustpan
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Re: Sliders
« Reply #1 on: December 27, 2005, 11:19:45 AM » |
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If it don't rain all week here again I'll be installing them on my 67 Valiant this week. Everything I have read on them so far is good as long as you keep them lubed up reg.
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vitamindart
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Re: Sliders
« Reply #2 on: December 27, 2005, 11:44:12 AM » |
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i also am planing on installing them i got a set from bill last year and never got to install them yet
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Dartsport
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Re: Sliders
« Reply #3 on: December 27, 2005, 12:14:21 PM » |
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Anybody have a picture of the sliders, or a link to them. I have never seen them. Thanks.
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68Valiant
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Re: Sliders
« Reply #5 on: December 27, 2005, 12:29:41 PM » |
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Dartsport
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Re: Sliders
« Reply #6 on: December 27, 2005, 05:39:18 PM » |
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Thanks for pictures and info....
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Bakaruda
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Re: Sliders
« Reply #7 on: December 27, 2005, 06:25:39 PM » |
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I had aset on my 70 challenger back a few years ago not impressed with them.
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abodyjoe
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Re: Sliders
« Reply #8 on: December 27, 2005, 07:57:45 PM » |
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whar are they actually suposed to do??
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Bakaruda
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Re: Sliders
« Reply #9 on: December 27, 2005, 08:35:26 PM » |
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When I got them it was supposed to help with spring rap. Mine had ladder bars and sliders. I think you should just go ahead and do ladder bars or 4 link.
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70 Dustpan
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Re: Sliders
« Reply #10 on: December 27, 2005, 11:59:18 PM » |
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Cary are you talking about ladder bars and leaf springs?
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Re: Sliders
« Reply #11 on: December 28, 2005, 12:53:56 AM » |
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whar are they actually suposed to do??
I don't know about the other guys, but I'm considering them because they will slightly lower the car. I need all the help I can get in that area. |
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Green_WEDGE
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Re: Sliders
« Reply #12 on: December 28, 2005, 01:53:58 AM » |
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The sliders help let the springs exstend all the way to plant the tires to the gruond. Just need long enough shocks that dont hold back the springs from exstening. They work well with my ss springs and the car sits lower at rest!  |
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abodyjoe
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Re: Sliders
« Reply #13 on: December 28, 2005, 09:43:56 AM » |
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oh ok... cool.. i've seen them but didn't know what they used them for.. thanks.
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vitamindart
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Re: Sliders
« Reply #15 on: December 28, 2005, 02:10:56 PM » |
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thats some good reading thanks dust pan
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Bakaruda
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Re: Sliders
« Reply #16 on: December 28, 2005, 04:44:01 PM » |
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Dustpan, Mine basically was a ladderbar system and insted of coilovers it used the leaf system.
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70 Dustpan
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Re: Sliders
« Reply #17 on: December 28, 2005, 04:56:43 PM » |
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I would say that was your biggest problem Cary. All the builders and suspension guys I've talked with say go with one or the other, but not together. The springs defeat the workings of the ladder bars and the ladder bars bind and mess with the functions of the springs. Not a good set-up.  |
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Re: Sliders
« Reply #18 on: December 28, 2005, 04:59:44 PM » |
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Thast not true the rear floats on the springs. They just take the place of the coil springs. The front of the spring is what raps up.
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70 Dustpan
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Re: Sliders
« Reply #19 on: December 28, 2005, 06:04:02 PM » |
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Cary, I'll look around for some of the info on them that I'm talking about. All the places that make or sell them seem to say that they are good, but most guys that have used them or build rear set-ups don't recommend them. Coil-overs and ladder bars are a better way to go. I would also say that for a car that is going to see much street time that you shouldn't go with ladder bars. There is not enough twisting movement allowed in the rear-end. They are made for straight line use. For a street car you need to have a good amount of up and down and twisting movement to the rear-end.
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Re: Sliders
« Reply #20 on: December 28, 2005, 06:31:26 PM » |
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Yes they are made for the drag strip. I agree spend the little extra and go with coil overs. I had them on a 71 Challanger I had in the late 80s. Mine came from Art Morrison. I was tring to say that I would not go this way again. If I was building a drag car today I would spend the money and go with a 4 link. My car has leaf springs moved in and the tubs done. Good luck with which ever way some one wants to go. Carters car had ladders bars and it hookes good.
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jet-taz
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Re: Sliders
« Reply #21 on: December 28, 2005, 07:14:44 PM » |
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i got a question on the sliders? will they work with super stock springs for a bodies. as to rear spring bushings.  |
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70 Dustpan
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Re: Sliders
« Reply #22 on: December 28, 2005, 07:33:39 PM » |
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They have a alum. bushing for the rear that would need to be replaced with one the right size for the SS springs. at least the ones I got from Summit.
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Re: Sliders
« Reply #23 on: December 29, 2005, 02:23:38 PM » |
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70 Dustpan: I ended up machining the bushings that came with my Summit sliders. Where did you get your aluminum bushings?
Tom
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70 Dustpan
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Re: Sliders
« Reply #24 on: December 29, 2005, 04:01:39 PM » |
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The ones for the rear? They came with the sliders and are AFCO's from Summit.
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Re: Sliders
« Reply #25 on: December 29, 2005, 04:27:41 PM » |
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Anyone running the sliders on the rear leafs instead of the shackles? If so how are they doing, any comments are appreciated.
68Valiant
My Dart runs this setup and worked great for my W2 340 / Flite setup , with the new Hemi combo ? Check out the pic. Chryco  [attachment deleted by admin] |
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Daniel
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Re: Sliders
« Reply #26 on: December 29, 2005, 05:09:36 PM » |
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Cary were you using the sliders that mount the axle to the spring or the sliders that mount the rear leaf eye to the frame?
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vitamindart
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Re: Sliders
« Reply #27 on: December 29, 2005, 05:16:28 PM » |
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see i thought when they are on the rear of the spring they are sliders and when they were on the axle they were floaters(housing floating on the rear spring)
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Daniel
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Re: Sliders
« Reply #28 on: December 29, 2005, 05:22:18 PM » |
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Your right on the terms just wanted to be sure we were all refering to the rear mount and not the floater.
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Re: Sliders
« Reply #29 on: December 29, 2005, 05:23:16 PM » |
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see i thought when they are on the rear of the spring they are sliders and when they were on the axle they were floaters(housing floating on the rear spring)
Your right. What Chryco is showing there is Floaters. |
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