Hey ...how about reinstating the forsale section?

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September 07, 2008, 04:29:31 AM

I know that our only concern is giving our own Club members a shot at the thing we have and what they might need, Yeah ! there's plenty of Folks out there looking for A-body stuff now more than ever, But like I said I would like to see our members get the things they need for there cars
before selling to total strangers,
Although I know there are still plenty of swapmeets around and local ad sites, so I suppose this is our only measure of recourse, There is a local club here in Ga, called Nth Ga Mopar Club . and they have a site for there club and for anyone to access, but in order to sale on there they have to be members who pays Dues. ( Membership fee's) and this intitles them to sale there stuff on line, Just a thought?

Many years ago I was asked to join this club, but I declined. I much rather be somewhere
with folks that are not really concern with Modifications to there cars Wink

http://northgeorgiamoparclub.com/
oops! sorry Bill, this link was just an example of how there club handle the sales thing,
not intended for advertise purposes.

OH! and about the A$$hole thing>> is it better to be an A$$hole then a whole A$$ Grin

Well as a member and somone that spent more time in the forsale section than any where else on this site I must say I really miss it!! Sad

I also know it only takes one person to ruin it for everyone.Bill it's your site and I respect your decision.By the way it was nice talking with you at Carlisle,and everyone else from here for that matter!! drinks

Dave G.

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Sure I'd link to an outside source - like a sticky thread in the off-topic. For sale stuff is necessary in car building. I just can't stand to have it hear anymore because of the threats when something goes bad. If someone wants to do a for sale off-site and take on the abuse, I'm happy to add a link here....

. We all would appreciate it.

I have a couple of ideas you can entertain,
Make everybody use their real name instead of a *user* name. (this works for many reasons besides selling)
On all for sale ads make them list their/parts location.
Or just leave it the way it is and have people sell on Ebay/Craigs list........

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On all for sale ads make them list their/parts location.

that was one of the rules that certian guys couldn't follow...

Lessons learned:

Ads with no location or prices need to be deleted. If someone is serious about selling something, they'll wise up.

Continuous whiners need to be banned.

If someone has been ripped off, the seller should be on "The List".

There could also be a list of people that are good to deal with.

I can't stand ebay, I would rather deal with the members on B.B.D. It's a shame that a few idiots screwed up the for sale section.

I have sold and purchased items from various bbd sign

members and ALL of my transactions have been fantastic in every way, so I was also REALLY sad to see the for sale section go away. It's just a shame that a few bad apples have the power to ruin it for so many other good folks. Sad

As far as being held responsible for any deals that may go bad Bill, Craigs List, the local newspapers, Mopar magazine's like MCG and all of the other sources that allow personal ad's, all have a written disclaimer that all sellers and buyers MUST agree to before they can sell or buy. This disclaimer protects the hosting source, their employess and other related folks from any legal liabilities. Would this be a possiblity here on bbd sign

to solve the problems that led you to delete the for sale section?

Thank you very much for EVERYTHING that you do for us Bill.

Richard

Whomever decides to the for sale section, use a web form with required fields such as name, contact info, location, etc. That in itself will weed out most of the dildos. Have notifications sent to yourself with this information, and if it looks erroneous, whack the post. You could also do some coding to verify that some of the data is in fact real, even before it is posted.

I have been a member on of this site for the past 5 years. Offered parts to members for free when they needed them.
I go to another site and list parts for sale and I get a reply to my post oh your new here how do we know we can trust you are you a member of any other site.
This came from some one I never even heard of.
So yes I would like to be able to sell through this site or a link. Never had any problems with members here and I was accepted as a new member.
Ed

I still wanna know what was wrong with the fried chicken! Grin

Quote from: 68GTconvert on July 14, 2007, 01:27:38 PM

I miss the sale section but it is Bills site and I respect his descion.

Good call

Quote from: automan63 on July 14, 2007, 12:00:30 AM

From "for sale" to "assholes". Man what a slide that was.
Bill, assholes are easy to detect, they wear ties and write estimates for insurance company's. Everytime one walks into my shop, somehow the radio magically lowers the volume all by it self. I guess thats so I can hear the shit their slinging. Blah Blah Blah

Now that's some funny shit right there.
Fire and water restoration is what I do. It's way different then cars. But I never have to "market an adjuster". I love it. The jops just come and I never have to argue over pricing.

ValiantOne: That Fried Chicken Is Doing Just Fine Thank You! Cheers

Unless I miss my guess I think Bill started this site to attract other mopar happy gear heads. Grin

The amount of time it takes to moniter this site nowdays has got to be unreal and the "for sale" site must be a large part of it. Give him a break.......the guy's got a life. Between RMS all day, taking calls and dealing with a lot of dumb questions, and the work on this site I'd be surprized if he has any life.
It's very obvious that Bill takes a great deal of pride in his product. Before I bought the Alterkation I called many times and he was always available to answer my questions.
I don't know how he does it and I'm all for lightening has load so he's around to answer our dumb questions for a long time to come.

Here's a novel idea.

" Sell or buy at your own risk. bbd sign

will not be liable for any misdeals or false sales. Again. . . sell and buy at your own risk."

What's so tough about that?

Ok, I'll explain this again. We had rules. If theres no location or price, the post gets deleted.... oh so simple, and not really a big deal. Other sites are extremely strict with this stuff, so I figured, 2 little rules will be easy to follow without any problems.

So I delete posts that are lacking one or the other, as per a sticky topic right in the for sale forum.

In return, on a weekly basis, I got emails like this...
............
"What you got somethin up your ass about me?!?! I didnt do a fuckin thing wrong on your damn website but you gotta bug up your ass so you delete my fuckin post. Probably cause i didnt buy your products like the rest of these assholes on here you dont want me takin up your space. Well fuck you too asshole. You better hope i dont catch you at one of the shows cause ill knock yer ass all the way across the parking lot. dickhead"
..............

Sorry, but after 30 or so emails like that I had enough, considering I don't gain anything from the for sale board. It was just a nice thing for members to supply each other. I dealt with the crap as long as I could stand.
What really grinds me is that they always seem to throw in RMS, like I'm forcing my stuff down everyone's throat here, despite my monstrous attempts to keep bigblockdart separate from the company. I never bring up my own stuff on here unless someone asks, but it doesn't seem to matter.
I just don't need it.

Yeah, I got some pretty nasty ones from guys that got pissed off about me enforcing the rules too...I just gave up trying to be the nice guy, and yeah, I apologize for sometimes loosing my temper madwife

(it's the Italian side of me Grin

)...I got accused of being "Partial to certain members", I was called a" bitchy old lady" I was told "You have no place here anyways, ya got an Ebody" I was told they DID put there contact info in there ad, when it wasn't there... Roll Eyes

"You removed my ad cause YOU don't like ME"...and the list goes on...When something that is offered for free as a courtesy, starts to become a hassle, and people get THREATENED and accused of all kinds of things....It ceases to be a needed feature of a Friendly forum like this one...Sorry to all of you that followed the rules, the few idiots ruined it for the majority...Plain and simple.... Dunno

Bill, that's ridiculous...I give you a lot of credit for not ditching the whole board after getting disrespect like that...that's just WRONG... Madd

PinkE..

Bill,
That really is a shame that people became that vicious towards you. Being relatively new to the site, I didn't realize the past history and negative attitudes of those idiots. I don't blame you for taking the sales forum down.
Mike

I've said it before andI'll say it again....Bill Reilly and the rest of the mods and gods that look after this site should be commended for the time and effort that they put into it. I spend hours and hours on this site and only read half the posts...they gotta read 'em all. It must take up a shit load of time...but they still do it. For themselves??? Nope..it's for US!!! Bill even takes the time to answer personal emails...at least he has for me..and Im sure the rest do it too. As far as the losers that give them a hard time about stupid stuff...it just proves that they're just that ...losers. Most of you guys seem like pretty cool guys to me, soyou should understand that when the mods make a decision, it's THEIR decision. Let them make it!!! If you have stuff for sale, look in the wanted section to see if anyone is looking for what you have and ...poof....sold!!and to Bill, PinkE, Abodyjoe, and the rest ... thank you

Get over it this section is dead.

either way this place is still great, i would rather have a bbd without the for sale than no bbd ,as said many times just a couple bad apples ruin it for the rest of us.

Bill don't want to deal with all the bs that was going on. It kind of ruined it....it needed policed constantly. Where's the Sheriff?

Quote from: PinkE on July 20, 2007, 10:14:31 AM

I was called a" bitchy old lady"

PinkE..

i cant believe they called ya bitchy
but old ---well they have a point LOL

I think the wanted section works just fine and does the same thing as far as exchanging things between members. I buy enough stuff I don't need with ebag and craigslist (by the way type it in and forget the "S" as in craiglist dot I did that at work by mistake and the E police raided my office) and swap meets etc. The for sale section in any forum gets abused by a minority of people who have one thing in mind and it involves money not parts or the hobby.

Quote from: Bill_Reilly on July 20, 2007, 09:57:20 AM

WOW That's some full on BS. The nerve of some people.

This reminds me of what a lesbian co-worker told me once.

"It doesn't matter how good it's going it only takes one Dick to ruin the whole party"

Quote from: Bigshoulders on July 20, 2007, 11:51:19 PM

Quote from: PinkE on July 20, 2007, 10:14:31 AM

I was called a" bitchy old lady"

PinkE..

i cant believe they called ya bitchy
but old ---well they have a point LOL

...see, look what kind of crap I take? LOL

Quote from: Bill_Reilly on July 20, 2007, 09:57:20 AM

Sorry for this rant, but I was searching for some trinkety little parts and the lack of a for sale section here, where I know SOMEONE must have what I need, has kinda pissed me off, I for one do not have time to filter thru e-mails from 100's assholes trying to sell me junk I dont want because I posted a "wanted add", has happened before and I would expect it would happen here just the same.

It seems to me that someone who couldn't follow the rules and would send a threatening IM should have had there IM AND screen name AND all other relavant info along with a copy of their wrongfully worded or info lacking parts post placed in a sticky thread that is locked from anyone else adding posts other than Bill. I think after a couple people saw that THEY might get their asses "knocked across the lot" by other members here who dont want a good thing ruined, they would FOLLOW THE RULES and play fair

BUT

I also would have given, the person/persons who posted a for sale add, a CHANCE to correct their add to meet the rules, NOT just have the attitude that "I am the owner/moderator, I delete your add cause I think I am a GOD here and can do as I want" Thats all fine and dandy when you live in Natzi Germany in 1930's-40's and your Hitler, but in the real world of today, you need to have a more "delicate hand" in dealing with others. Some people are quickly and easily offended when you treat them poorly "just because they are new, or make mistakes" and will do as anyone else who is left with no means of retalition, they WILL SPOUT OFF AND THREATEN, and if your not careful may even follow thru on their threat. To accept that others AND yourselves can make mistakes or have bad days is "to be human", anything else and your nothing but a dirtbag "elitist" and should have a piece of lead passed thru your cranium to fix your mental defect. IMO.

So

I am saddened that you don't have the will or gumption to fix a good thing Bill, and instead, like a politician, you choose to take the easy way out and make rules or changes that spoil the site for the majority and elieviates your "discomfort level". Maybe you need to run for political office, oh wait scratch that, someone might threaten you and you'd probably take the easy weay out and would pass a law that would say "No talkling allowed ANYWHERE in the country". Sorry, LOL

, just being a little facetious

This country has gone to shit because most out there are to chickenshit to stand up to the whining minorities/losers and criminals because they are too afraid of what someone might say, or do.

As far as "moderators" in general, and I am not refering to anyone or any individual here, just making a broad sweeping refrence to ALL web sites on the net, it has been my expierence that there needs to be a "BIASED ASSHOLE LIER SCUMBAG BUDDIES ABOVE ALL ELSE MODERATOR" detector.

Seems that there are a lot of sites that have people who, simply because they have a lot of posts or because they are/were gay butt buddies from the fAIRyForce, or whatever, get a so called moderators position and then they start deleting others posts, or altering the text in the posts to suit what THEY think it should say or whatever other loser excuse they can come up with OR even better yet, they attemt to break into someones pc using the web site they are mods for (ACTUALLY happened). I don't give a F what anyone else on this planet calls it, but I call it censorship and criminalistic, and there IS NO ROOM on this planet for it, again as I said if we were living in Natzi Germany or China it might be ok, but not in this SO CALLED free world of today. If your an ass that alters others posts because "your a moderator and HAVE THE POWER" and you don't like what someone said or don't agree, then YOU TOO NEED A LEAD LABOTOMY and I would feel no pity if I heard you had recieved your just reward.

I for one never hold back and will be very vocal about my thoughts and opinions on any subject, and when pushed to the breaking point I will go to ANY ENDS to let ALL know what the hell is REALLY going on and I am not afraid to stand up to ANYONE, after 40 plus years, I just don't put up with BS from scumbuckets.

Grow a set Bill, put the for sale section back up and try it the way I suggest, posting the wrong doers in a sticky thread and limiting sellers to those who have been members for either a year or after 100 or 200 posts, you may find the site will grow some more and the peeps here will be happier and may even be able to find an actual deal on some needed parts from someone they can feel some trust towards because it isn't just some nameless fleabag loser or fagslist crap. As far as fear of past threats from sellers who had their posts deleted, if they are still mad, taking away the for sale section wasn't gonna make them happier anyway and your just alienating good users because of it. Proven by the number of posts in this thread in the first place.

Just my thoughts and ramblings on a rainy saturday whilst searching for parts. To bad none of the good peeps here will get a chance to help me find my part and make a few bucks for their project, all because the site has no back bone.