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« on: July 16, 2007, 08:09:49 PM »

This might be a good thread to sticky for the mods .

Those of us who have weighed their A body, should post the car details .I finally weighed mine this week.

70 dart
RB--alum heads / 727 / 8.75 rear
8 point cage
frame connectors
plastic seats
glass hood and bumpers
weld wheels
no back seat
SS springs
heater motor still in there
12 gallon fuel cell --with about 3 gallons of fuel



weight =  3060 lbs

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« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2007, 09:09:35 PM »

good thread....


71 dart all stock body
360, alum heads and intake
904
8 3/4 rear, 11 inch drum brakes
alter-k man steering and stock style ford brakes.
street lynx rear suspension
full bench seat int.
heater and a/c stuff under the dash
no a/c stuff under the hood

3175 pounds
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« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2007, 11:52:13 PM »

very good thread, someone please sticky

72 plymouth duster
225 slant six 904 7.25
original a/c car- all components forward of the firewall removed
bench seat car( new buckets only weigh 15 lbs a piece)

right about 3000 lbs with old seat

all other modifications so far didnt make much weight difference

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« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2007, 12:02:23 AM »

66 Barracuda;
318/904/8 3/4. 3200
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« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2007, 01:09:46 AM »

1969 Valiant Signet.

no spare tire or jack.

stock small bolt suspension from the slant6 aluminum rims 8 3/4" rear 2900 lb ss springs.

Lexan on all side glass front and rear original glass regulators all removed.

all carpet sound deadner and most of that awfull coating inside the doors and fenders ect removed.

all interior panels gone, i mean everything,sheet steel for the rear bulkhead after relocation of battery.

no heater or wiper motor radio speakers.

no front bumber or brackets a rolled pan in it's place.

inner hood reinforcment removed including hinges and latch.

inner aprons removed for headers but replaced with 3' of 1 5/8" tube and some 3/16" plate at the firewall.

big Ford rad electric fan and shroud.

aluminum intake Thermo-Quad carb.

fenderwell headers full 2 - 1-7/8" exhaust with mufflers to the bumper.

1973 440 engine 727 trans 11 converter late style waterpump no power steering a/c aluminum steering box.

one Generic Motors front seat.

one average sized knuckle dragger.

2900lbs 57% on the front with the battery in the trunk using 00 copper cable to the large style starter with a 1/4 tank of Ethyl.

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« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2007, 12:29:15 PM »

Haven't heard on gas being referred to as Ethyl for a long time, You must be an old timer?
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« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2007, 08:56:57 PM »

67 Dart, all steel except for glass hood
440, iron heads, aluminum intake, headers
727
stock front suspension w/ later model disc brakes
aluminum wheels
8 3/4 rear, 11 inch drum brakes, HD leaf springs
Gutted interior, 2 plastic seats, no back seat,  mild steel 10 point cage, frame connectors, factory dash w/ no heater box
15 gallons of fuel and one nitrous bottle.....

3275 pounds
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« Reply #7 on: July 17, 2007, 09:53:47 PM »

This might be a good thread to sticky for the mods .

Those of us who have weighed their A body, should post the car details .I finally weighed mine this week.

70 dart
RB--alum heads / 727 / 8.75 rear
8 point cage
frame connectors
plastic seats
glass hood and bumpers
weld wheels
no back seat
12 gallon fuel cell --with about 3 gallons of fuel



weight =  3060 lbs

 Smiley

Is that weight including the driver ??
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« Reply #8 on: July 17, 2007, 10:00:54 PM »

This might be a good thread to sticky for the mods .

Those of us who have weighed their A body, should post the car details .I finally weighed mine this week.

70 dart
RB--alum heads / 727 / 8.75 rear
8 point cage
frame connectors
plastic seats
glass hood and bumpers
weld wheels
no back seat
12 gallon fuel cell --with about 3 gallons of fuel



weight =  3155 lbs (no driver)

 Smiley

Is that weight including the driver ??

'67 Barracuda
B Alum Heads/727/8.75
10 pt cage
frame connectors
Kirkey aluminum seat
Glass hood + bumpers
Centerline Auto Drags
No back seat
4 gal fuel cell
Dual batteries

3320 Race Ready
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« Reply #9 on: July 18, 2007, 02:00:21 AM »

This might be a good thread to sticky for the mods .

Those of us who have weighed their A body, should post the car details .I finally weighed mine this week.

70 dart
RB--alum heads / 727 / 8.75 rear
8 point cage
frame connectors
plastic seats
glass hood and bumpers
weld wheels
no back seat
12 gallon fuel cell --with about 3 gallons of fuel



weight =  3060 lbs

 Smiley

Is that weight including the driver ??


NO driver .
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« Reply #10 on: July 18, 2007, 11:47:16 AM »

Well here goes.

 1967 Plymouth Valiant
511 B motor, tall fill
B1 heads
Powerglide trans
14 point MS cage
Mini tubbed
Frame connectors
Kirket seats
Full interior
All functional glass
Wipers and radio
Glass Hood and bumpers
Weld Alumastars
Aerospace brakes
15 Gallon cell
Dual batteries
100 lbs of ballast in trunk

3480lbs with my 240 in it.

1968 Plymouth Barracuda
Hemi
Stage 5 heads
Powerglide trans
Full mild steel tube chassis
4 link
Struts on front
Lexan windows
Glass front end, bumper, and hood
Steel doors and trunk
Interior is all aluminum and steel
Single Kirkey seat
Glass Cavalier dash
Weld Magnums
Wilwood brakes
5 gallon cell

2600lbs empty 2870 race ready
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« Reply #11 on: July 19, 2007, 12:35:22 AM »

umm,that is mike's 68' Dunno  bat

You are correct sir. Mike did an excellent job on the car and we plan to keep it that way. It is first class all the way and many Kudos go to Mike and Lakeville Auto Body. I had been looking for a tube chassis car for almost two years and when I heard about this one being available I decided to persue it. I am very picking about what I like and I have never bought a T/K car before like this. Anyone who has seen my cars knows I am pretty particular about their appearance and performance. For me to buy it says tons about the quality of the car and the components used. Yes I plan to enjoy it...Must have missed my post on the other board about getting the car.....
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« Reply #12 on: July 19, 2007, 01:07:29 PM »

74 Duster
12pt. cage
alum head B engine
glass hood, bumpers
727 w/sheild
9" iron center
wilwood dynalite brakes
leafs, cal-tracs
weld pro stars
optima battery
8 gal. cell
10lb n2o bottle
factory dash and column all stripped
lightened k-frame
race seats

2998 lbs.  w/driver I weigh 230
I know the car is 1640 on the nose but my class race weight is 3300 lbs
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« Reply #13 on: July 21, 2007, 06:36:39 PM »

72 Swinger
318, automatic, PS, PDB, AC (pump and brackets removed)
All stock except full dual exhaust
spare but no jack
half tank of gas, no driver

3180lbs



That's my baseline....I wonder what it will weigh in the future?

12pt MS cage and backhalf
4-link, 16 gallon cell
all-aluminum Indy RB
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'glass hood, aluminum fenders (maybe!)
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« Reply #14 on: July 25, 2007, 07:55:25 PM »

74 Dart Sport 360,headers,other wise bone stock with a 3sp stick. 3380 w/o driver.
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« Reply #15 on: July 27, 2007, 07:44:43 PM »

Just got my braket car running.  Finally race ready (I Hope). 

74 Duster
Weighed it today.

2820 without driver.

Gutted, 383/727, 8 3/4.
6 point roll bar
Aluminum dash and door panels.
Weld Draglites.
All steel and no lexan
No rear bumper was on it either.

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« Reply #16 on: July 28, 2007, 01:24:05 PM »

thanks for all the info guys,
still getting car ready to run, havent weighed in yet, hope to be @ 2800 pounds
(see my pics on b/b dart under evil twin racing) let me know what you think...
car has been back halfed and gutted with full cage, narrowed dana 60 with 4 link
aluminum dash, fiberglass front clip, doors,trunk lid, and bumpers
b/b 451 with hughes powerglide and 488 gears
my brother started building the car , never got to finish,
in loving memory of Jay Boles......
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« Reply #17 on: July 29, 2007, 09:07:41 AM »

My '71 duster was 3200# with
440/iron heads
727
8 3/4 on super stocks
gutted interior, just one plastic bucket but the dash is all there
no front bumper
removed the hood bracing, but it's steel
8 point cage, frame ties
fuel cell and battery in the trunk
with me in it.
We have a crude farm scale, so that's as acurate as it gets.
Good thread.
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« Reply #18 on: July 30, 2007, 02:03:37 AM »

My sons stock body Dart:  3540 with his 170 in it.  Ron

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« Reply #19 on: August 01, 2007, 01:05:50 AM »

1967 Dart 2 door Sedan 6 cylinder car

WEIGHT WITHOUT DRIVER 3000 Lbs. excatly

Engine        1971 440 Block
                  Edelbrock Alum. heads
                  Weiand alum intake
                  Mopar Alumm. waterpump and housing
                  Alumium race radiator
                  TTI 2 inch headers

Transmission  Mopar 727

Rear End      Strange S-60 with disk brakes

Wheels         Centerline Auto Drag front 15x31/2   Hooiser tires
                                                 rear 15x10.5    Hooiser Slicks 29x12

Fiberglass ...Hood
                 Front Bumper and bracketts

                 Stock Steel inner fenders
                 Mini Tubbed with frame connectors
                 Big Block K frame with 11 inch disk brakes
                 

Interior Stripped ....Plastic race seat  and cover
                           window mechanisms removed all but driver
                           factory glass all around
                           aluminiun panels replace stock headliner and door side upholstery
                           steering column race type with removable wheel
                           Turbo Action Shifter with CO2
                           dash Rocky Mountain insert Stewart Warner gauges
                           Competeion Eng. Roll Bar 6 pt.
                           fuel cell  5 gal
                          battery (heavy duty deep cycle marine) in trunk
                           


                           
                           


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« Reply #20 on: August 01, 2007, 05:31:24 AM »

 67 plymouth valiant..all steel.......383 cast heads..aluminum intake & rad....headers  3 inch to 3 1/2 exhaust ,1 foot past rearend......fuel cell..no spare or jack....manual steering, man brakes....half of undercoatinmg removed....bench seat..column shift....18" heavy wheels

3300lbs
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« Reply #21 on: August 02, 2007, 09:49:54 PM »

68 GTS383 Auto(The Real Thing)
Steel Intake and exhaust manifolds
Spare tire with jack and hold down hard ware
Factory steel wheels with pie pans
Full tank of gas NO driver
3290 on certified scales
MOPARS RULE!!!

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« Reply #22 on: August 20, 2007, 05:51:43 PM »

I think our weight of our car is around the weight of your car.
We have a fiberglass cowl hood, a 383 with aluminum intake and rad, no headliner, 727, 8 3/4 rear, manual brakes and steering, the driver (383Kidd weighs 140lbs) and the owner and part driver dad weighs, lets just say twice as much as me. Compared to your weight if a subtract my weight from your car, it is 3150, plus other little stuff that may add up to 150lbs, we may be weighing only 2900lbs.

i wouldnt count on that

my dads old race car set up-

duster, 10.30s bracket car, 440 all steel, 727, 8 3/4, no interior, full tubs, stock frame rail, fiberglass doors/front end (one piece), no heavy glass, all street stuff like wipers removed

3000 lbs on the nose
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« Reply #23 on: August 22, 2007, 12:03:42 PM »

the truck weigh scales on the hiways work fine.

put the front wheels on,take note then get all wheels on for your total and % front and rear.
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« Reply #24 on: August 25, 2007, 09:28:12 PM »

1974 duster 453 RB , manual 727, 3600 stall, 8.75 with 430s, underchassis headers, 12 point cage, frame connecters, SS springs, gutted interior+hood , alum intake, battery in trunk, NOS, plastic race seat, fiberglass fenders+deck lid,centerline wheels, + the very slippery Panther Pink paint, no inner fenders........just under 3100 lbs............kim....................                                                                                                                                                                 
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« Reply #25 on: August 28, 2007, 03:17:41 PM »

1968 cuda 440 ,al heads ,fiberglass hood, centerlines wheels ,al radiator
8-point bar,stock interior w/ console  5 gal fuel   3260lbs

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« Reply #26 on: September 03, 2007, 09:24:16 PM »


To: 68GTS383 and 67Dart383
   
  Hello Guys..... Just a note to add to your Formulas..My 67 Dart GTS (also the real thing 383 4 speed) weighs in at 3385 pounds on certified scales.    Why the difference between mine and your 68 GTS i don't know.  Car was weighed without driver and 1/2 tank of gas, with all equiptment as delivered.

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« Reply #27 on: September 13, 2007, 06:42:00 PM »



One thing is I beleive the 4 speed setup adds weight over a Auto setup.   There may even be quite a bit of diff in that area depending on bellhousing & flywheel used.  Plus you have Z bar,clutch  peddle assy and some other small things.



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« Reply #28 on: September 18, 2007, 01:25:47 AM »

Hey guys haven’t weight the car yet so we don’t no really what the car weights . But since you guys know what your car weighs maybe you guys could help us out.
 
68 dart 2dr post car

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Dana 60

 All interior stripped

383BB iron heads big tube headers

Disc breaks

Centerline 15x15

2 seats

14pt cage

4speed with Lakewood scatter shield

20gallon aluminum cell

Dual batteries in trunk

Glass hood

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« Reply #29 on: September 28, 2007, 09:21:23 PM »

1967 Dart GT with iron 383, 727 and 8.75. PS, manual brakes and aftermarket A/C. All trim, carpet and usual accessories. Car weighs 3550 w/o the driver; kind of porky. This is only 250 pounds less than my Hemi Challenger!  Cry
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« Reply #30 on: September 29, 2007, 11:22:53 PM »

Weighed mine today:
1969 dart 3110 no driver.
All steel except 24lb glass hood. (weighed that to)
440/727 with steel heads
aluminum rad/waterpump/wp housing
CPPA chassis headers with X pipe and  bullet mufflers to rear
dana 60 with ss springs and ladder bars
73 front disc brakes setup
centerline wheels
MS 6 point roll bar
no interior except plastic driver seat
plastic 16 gallon cell with 10 gallons of gas in it.

pics here if it helps : http://gallery.bigtimeauto.com/view_album.php?set_albumName=1969-Dodge-Dart
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« Reply #31 on: October 12, 2007, 11:43:15 AM »

74 Duster, all steel except for glass hood scoop
440, iron heads, aluminum intake, headers
NP 4 speed
stock front suspension w/ later model disc brakes
aluminum wheels
8 3/4 rear, 11 inch drum brakes, HD leaf springs
Full interior
15 gallons of fuel
3,385 pounds w/o driver
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« Reply #32 on: October 23, 2007, 05:13:18 AM »

'71 Dart street/strip car
12 point cage
Iron headed 440
727/ 8.75"
All fibreglass panels/lexan side windows
stripped interior
Alterkation
All Willwood brake system
Lightweight everything used wherever possible
full street equipment
2945lb with 16 gallons in the tank, couple hundred more with me behind the wheel.
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« Reply #33 on: October 23, 2007, 04:32:06 PM »

1971 Duster 2960lbs - No driver.
All steel except Glass hood.
383/727 with Eddy heads
Aluminum rad, Waterpump & housing
Schumacher headers on 3" Half system
9" Ford on Monos
72 front disc brakes setup
Weld Draglites with M/T's
No Roll Cage
No Fan motor, dash cut-outs, Plastic seats (No rear)
Ally panels
Plastic 16 gallon cell with 5 gallons of gas in it.
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« Reply #34 on: November 12, 2007, 06:49:06 PM »

My old 73 duster roll bars  dana 60  8 gal fuel cell
# in at 2975 w/o me  but it was a /6 car to start with.
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« Reply #35 on: November 21, 2007, 11:59:37 AM »

Wish it was lighter but 69 Dart, iron headed B motor, all steel, with the procharger
was 3400.
This winter, changing to Dana rear with disc brake setup,
sold blower and building  500 B motor, (still iron headed)

Should still weigh in around 3350. Roll Eyes
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« Reply #36 on: November 25, 2007, 04:54:09 PM »

thanks to a very lucky win at acton montana in super street i was weighed @ 2620 less driver.

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« Reply #37 on: December 11, 2007, 05:42:20 PM »

67 valiant 100  383 727 auto w/4,000 stall  2" fenderwell headers  aluminum intake,factory style disc brakes and a custom 8 3/4,
16 gallon feul cell and full interior . weighs 3200 (certified scale with me not in it.)
This was before I tore it apart to chassis it ..
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« Reply #38 on: December 14, 2007, 11:45:33 PM »

sweet orange swinger.
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« Reply #39 on: December 17, 2007, 03:52:37 PM »

A friends 72 Demon with 318, 904, 8 3/4, no p/s, a/c, p/b...all steel body, with stock bucket seats and console, no undercoating from the factory, heater removed, 2950 without driver. 
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« Reply #40 on: December 20, 2007, 12:33:15 AM »

Hey i sure that alot of you still have the October 2003 HOTROD mag around its the one with the red 03 Camaro 427 on the front, Well anyway it has a great article called LOSE WEIGHT NOW! It is a Duster that the do all kinds of things to drop the weight. The put glass fenders bumpers aluminum rearend chunk, mono leafs, fiberglass doors, aluminum wheels, put a tubular k- member and even drained gas... They end up lossing 588lbs off an already aluminum headed small block abody. Funny thing is their ets dropped .58 seconds in the 1/4.... And for your guys looking to drop a few pounds over the weekend... clean the under carraige, my bet is youll loose 8-10lbs
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« Reply #41 on: January 13, 2008, 11:31:13 AM »

Had a 75 Duster. 440, iron heads, cast iron six pack, iron 4 speed, Dana, a/c , full bench seat interior. 75,s had those huge 15 mph bumpers with massive reinforcements, brackets and impact absorbers. It weighed 4100lbs! I had been bragging that the car would go "easy" 11,s. Finally got high 11,s by removing the bumpers, gutting the interior, and removing the a/c and such.   
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« Reply #42 on: March 03, 2008, 07:57:47 PM »

68 maxwedge dart 440 60over 452 cast heads 1.6 rockers iny intake 440-2 flat top pistons soild roller cam 3.75 stock crank one 1050 dom. 727 man, body 9in con. 12 point cadge 8-3/4 rear 391 gears full 4in exaust all steel  glass sixpack hood, stock glass, hooiser 315/60/15 radial weight is 3470 with my 210lb ass it went 10.50@ 127mph 147 60ft. with out exaust, alt. and smaller bat. at 3250lb went 10.39@128 151 60ft. not bad for a 68 dart all street trim!
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« Reply #43 on: March 13, 2008, 03:24:46 PM »

Had a 75 Duster. 440, iron heads, cast iron six pack, iron 4 speed, Dana, a/c , full bench seat interior. 75,s had those huge 15 mph bumpers with massive reinforcements, brackets and impact absorbers. It weighed 4100lbs! I had been bragging that the car would go "easy" 11,s. Finally got high 11,s by removing the bumpers, gutting the interior, and removing the a/c and such.   

That duster must of ate alot of doughnuts

I have a 69 dart gts clone all steel drum brakes all around. This is the weight of it with a cast iron head 400 , cast iron manifolds weighed in around 3400 lbs.Also had crager steel rims.
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Had a 75 Duster. 440, iron heads, cast iron six pack, iron 4 speed, Dana, a/c , full bench seat interior. 75,s had those huge 15 mph bumpers with massive reinforcements, brackets and impact absorbers. It weighed 4100lbs! I had been bragging that the car would go "easy" 11,s. Finally got high 11,s by removing the bumpers, gutting the interior, and removing the a/c and such.   

That duster must of ate alot of doughnuts

I have a 69 dart gts clone all steel drum brakes all around. This is the weight of it with a cast iron head 400 , cast iron manifolds weighed in around 3400 lbs.Also had crager steel rims.


That duster weight has to be  B.S.  !
My D-100 Short box P/U weighed less than that, and my 67 valiant 2 door with a 383 weighed in at 3,200 with a full interior. A 440 doesn't weigh that much more.

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« Reply #45 on: April 04, 2008, 12:50:21 PM »

67 DART, 383/727, aluminum Rad,frame connectors, fuel cell, at the time stock rear supension,fiberglass hood , a/c vents inside ,centerlines wt.3170 lbs. W/O driver.
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« Reply #46 on: April 21, 2008, 08:22:14 AM »

Had a 75 Duster. 440, iron heads, cast iron six pack, iron 4 speed, Dana, a/c , full bench seat interior. 75,s had those huge 15 mph bumpers with massive reinforcements, brackets and impact absorbers. It weighed 4100lbs! I had been bragging that the car would go "easy" 11,s. Finally got high 11,s by removing the bumpers, gutting the interior, and removing the a/c and such.   

That duster must of ate alot of doughnuts

I have a 69 dart gts clone all steel drum brakes all around. This is the weight of it with a cast iron head 400 , cast iron manifolds weighed in around 3400 lbs.Also had crager steel rims.


That duster weight has to be  B.S.  !
My D-100 Short box P/U weighed less than that, and my 67 valiant 2 door with a 383 weighed in at 3,200 with a full interior. A 440 doesn't weigh that much more.

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 agree just weighed my 1975 A63 Duster.. 3080lbs. figure 200lbs more with soon to be installed 440/727/8.75.

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« Reply #47 on: April 28, 2008, 10:30:51 PM »

62 Plymouth Valiant
270 Dodge Hemi
904 push button
8 3/4 3.23
mini tubs
255/60R15 Cragars
fully stock otherwise

2890 lbs. dry
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« Reply #48 on: May 01, 2008, 11:54:08 PM »

68 Cuda FB
360 iron heads
aluminum intake
headers
727 auto
8-3/4
small driveshaft with 7260 joints
power steer
manual brakes
buckets with console
Arerican racing wheels 15x6 and 15x8
full interior
10 gals of fuel
15 lb. tool box in trunk for emergencies
full spare
2 fold up lawn chairs in trunk
stereo with large amp and 2 6x9 speakers
Car weight 3420
With me right at 3600
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« Reply #49 on: May 09, 2008, 03:50:12 PM »

1964 Plymouth Valiant 2 door post

Lexan Windows

Aluminum Interior, with carpet on top

Moly Cage

Boxed Mild steel frame

4 Link

Alterkation

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340 block, eddy heads

904, aluminum d/s, dana 60, coli overs

Centerlines

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« Reply #50 on: May 10, 2008, 12:08:12 AM »

thanks for all the info guys,
still getting car ready to run, havent weighed in yet, hope to be @ 2800 pounds
(see my pics on b/b dart under evil twin racing) let me know what you think...
car has been back halfed and gutted with full cage, narrowed dana 60 with 4 link
aluminum dash, fiberglass front clip, doors,trunk lid, and bumpers
b/b 451 with hughes powerglide and 488 gears
my brother started building the car , never got to finish,
in loving memory of Jay Boles......
I love that car
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« Reply #51 on: May 10, 2008, 02:57:28 AM »

3260 pounds with full fuel and no driver
69 barracuda hardtop  440 4 speed 8 3/4
aluminum parts: radiator, water pump, and housing, intake , master cylinder, wheels, brake calipers,
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« Reply #52 on: May 16, 2008, 06:05:18 PM »

65 dart 2 dr sedan
stock 273, iron heads, iron intake, iron exhaust manifolds, 904 trans, 8.75 rear, full dual exhaust
8 point mild steel cage
2X3 frame connectors
Factory undercoating removed
stock bucket seats
stock steel hood and bumpers
Cragar wheels
Wildwood brakes
no back seat
SS springs
heater and radio removed
12 gallon fuel cell --full of fuel



weight =  3080 lbs
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« Reply #53 on: May 25, 2008, 09:05:23 AM »

1967 Barracuda "notch back"     3525 with out driver
all steel, with factory glass
Dana ,spool ,Mark williams
factory gas tank
Super Stock springs
Stock ftront end
full factory interior
Full 12 point cage
727 trans
588 "  Twinplug Hemi , with heavy Mopar block
Elelphant ears Steel  , with Altenator
Alum Heads, with Mag. Valve Covers
78 volarie front discs
1/2 tank of gas and a 10 lb Nos bottle full
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« Reply #54 on: May 25, 2008, 02:54:49 PM »

1967 Barracuda "notch back"     3525 with out driver
all steel, with factory glass
Dana ,spool ,Mark williams
factory gas tank
Super Stock springs
Stock ftront end
full factory interior
Full 12 point cage
727 trans
588 "  Twinplug Hemi , with heavy Mopar block
Elelphant ears Steel  , with Altenator
Alum Heads, with Mag. Valve Covers
78 volarie front discs
1/2 tank of gas and a 10 lb Nos bottle full
......were gona need to see some pics of her Smiley
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« Reply #55 on: May 26, 2008, 08:46:19 AM »

Hey i sure that alot of you still have the October 2003 HOTROD mag around its the one with the red 03 Camaro 427 on the front, Well anyway it has a great article called LOSE WEIGHT NOW! It is a Duster that the do all kinds of things to drop the weight. The put glass fenders bumpers aluminum rearend chunk, mono leafs, fiberglass doors, aluminum wheels, put a tubular k- member and even drained gas... They end up lossing 588lbs off an already aluminum headed small block abody. Funny thing is their ets dropped .58 seconds in the 1/4.... And for your guys looking to drop a few pounds over the weekend... clean the under carraige, my bet is youll loose 8-10lbs

I actually did some of this stuff to my 1969 Valiant and ended up with a weight of 2650.  It has 225/6,  a-500 with adaptor plate, and 8 1/4 with 3.21 sure-grip.
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« Reply #56 on: May 27, 2008, 11:14:21 PM »

74 Duster  440 iron headed
Schumacher headers
Performer RPM intake
727 trans
8 1/4 rearend
Full interior

3400 lbs w/o driver


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« Reply #57 on: June 04, 2008, 10:35:29 PM »

1967 Dart
446 ci engine
Peformer RPM heads
M-1 intake
Holley 780 carb
MSD distributor
tti 2" headers
Full 3" X-pipe exhaust dumped before axel
727 trans
8 3/4 rear
1 racing bucket seat
Alm radiator
Fiberglass hood
16 gallon fuel cell with 2 gallons fuel
1 battery in trunk
7 point cage
1 nitrious bottle in trunk
Car weighs 3150 with out driver





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« Reply #58 on: July 28, 2008, 10:26:27 PM »

498, indy 440-1/ 727 / 430 8 3/4
full interior ( 2 front race seats), 8 point cage,S.S springs
fiberglass (heavy) hood, all steel
3313 w driver (218)
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« Reply #59 on: August 16, 2008, 11:35:06 PM »

'64 GT Dart, 273/904, manual steering and brakes with AC and about 1/3 tank of gas.
Without me
FL:932  FR:960
RL:698  RR:672

1892 front / 1370 rear

3262 total

58% front 42% rear

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RL:732  RR:688

1962 front / 1482 rear

3382 total

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« Reply #60 on: August 18, 2008, 11:33:03 PM »

Kind of ashamed to out my porky 69 Valiant, but here she is, all 3400# of her...

All steel body
AL MC
22" copper/brass radiator
AL Stealth intake
Iron 340, 4-speed
Under-dash A/C, no compressor
87 Daytona bucket seats, stock rear bench
B-body 8.75" rear with 10" drums
11.75" disc brakes with Viper calipers
1" sway bar, 1.140" t-bars
17x8" Cobra wheels, 245/45-17 tires
TTI headers and 3" exhaust
1/4 tank of gas, 185/70-14 spare tire, jack in trunk

With me in the car (220# at the time), total weight was 3620#, and weight split was 53%F/47%R, pretty good for an "old car" with lots of iron bits.  Lots has been changed, but I haven't weighed the car since then.  Changes include:

AL 26" radiator (heavier than 22" C/B rad)
Magnum serpentine belt system
Ram Van A/C compressor
Custom Auto Air underdash (20# less than OEM!)
EFI (M1 intake, injectors, regulator, ECM, fuel pump, return line, filters)
ART subframe connectors
ART torque boxes F/R
Optima battery (15# less than 75DT)
2000 Intrepid compact spare tire (should clear Viper calipers with spacer)
Driver lost 10#, trying for another 10#

I guess we'll see how much she'll gain or lose when I finally make it to the scales again.  If I can break even with all those upgrades, I'll be really happy.  After this, I'll relocate the battery to the trunk or find a 'glass hood to shift the weight around a little.

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« Reply #61 on: August 28, 2008, 01:32:32 PM »

72 scamp
gutted,aluminum interior panels
no wipers,no heater
frame connecters,8 pt cage,fuel cell,stereo system
all steel exept heavy fiberglass hood.
360/727-8 3/4,aluminum heads and intake,tti's
disc fronts,tubular uppers,steel wheels

current weight is #3310 and still need to add sound deadener and carpet Undecided
some of the posted weights seem optomistic wondering how accurate the scales are.
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« Reply #62 on: August 28, 2008, 10:05:22 PM »

my 71 demon with stock full interior, all glass, 12pt gage, dana ss springs, stock block and heads, aluminum wheels, fiberglass hood and fenders, frames tied with 2x3 inch, 10 gal fuel cell, 727 and exhaust to the dana was 3710 lbs.
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my 71 demon with stock full interior, all glass, 12pt gage, dana ss springs, stock block and heads, aluminum wheels, fiberglass hood and fenders, frames tied with 2x3 inch, 10 gal fuel cell, 727 and exhaust to the dana was 3710 lbs.
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« Reply #64 on: August 29, 2008, 02:13:15 AM »

ya got that right for sure.
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« Reply #65 on: September 18, 2008, 01:20:09 PM »

66 Dart GT
273 / 904 / 8.75
15" cop wheels
All steel everywhere...

3280lbs no driver
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« Reply #66 on: October 24, 2008, 03:37:17 AM »

1968 valiant street brawler:

All Steel, no fiberglass anything.
Full interior, with front and back bench seat in car and functional. 
All heater components removed.
8 3/4, normal A-body width with yukon axles, stock 68 leaf springs(for now), cal-tracs/mono leafs waiting to be installed.
255/70/15 BFG on 15x7 steel cop rims(rear), 205/75/15 on 15.5 steel rims(front)
2"TTI headers, full 3" pipes to bumper, 2- flowmaster muffs.
15 gal Fuel Cell, electric pump w/filter/reg.
727 transmission. Hurst ratchet shifter.
Summit Aluminum Radiator
499". stroked 400, Edelbrock heads, M1 Singleplane. Iron waterpump/housing.

3180 w/o driver and full tank of fuel.  4 speed

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« Reply #67 on: October 24, 2008, 11:25:30 AM »

505 cu. in.  -  440 block, no filler, no girdle, steel billet main caps, bored .030" , Callis 4.250" crank, Oliver steel rods chevy size, JE pistons, little over 14 to 1 compression, Brodix B1-BS heads, ported , Crower solid cam around .609" and .599" lift, duration?, custom built step headers 1-3/4" to 1-7/8" to 2" with merge collectors, M1 intake with 1050HP Dominator, #87 square jetting,  power valves, double roller timing chain, 35*full timing, FBO ignition system ( no MSD), BG400 ful pump,  Shogun water pump and water manifold, custom built BeeCool radiator, shroud and catch can, #8 or #10 radiator hoses, CRT 727 super/pro2 transmission (rollerized, billet aluminium front drum, bolt in sprag, Griner billet valvebody, transbrake) ,Hurst 1/4 stick shifter, with air shifter, PTC 8" converter, flashes to 5300-5400 rpm, shift at 6100 rpm, cross traps at 6300 - 6400 rpm , 4.10 gears in Ford 9" rear, Mark Williams axles, ladder bar with coil over rear suspension, Alston chassis 2"x3" box frame, coil over front suspension, rack & pinion steering , Wilwood 4 wheel disc brakes. Hoosier 32" x 13.5"w x 15" .      9.451et, 141.91mph, 1.278 - 60 foot,     Car weghs 2550 ,  2730 with driver.
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dartsport,that's pretty light.
what parts are fiberglass?
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« Reply #69 on: October 24, 2008, 08:39:50 PM »

dartsport,that's pretty light.
what parts are fiberglass?
Hood, scoop, and front bumper, are fiberglass.
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all glass or lexan?
where do you think you lost all that weight from?
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« Reply #71 on: October 25, 2008, 08:43:17 AM »

all glass or lexan?
where do you think you lost all that weight from?

    The 2 side rear windows are glass, all the rest are lexan. The car is a 2"x3" box frame chassis, aluminium floors, motor moved back and up a few inches. Moved back firewall, no inner fenders, 1 seat. Here are a few pics. No factory trunk hinges, modified trunk hinges. Aluminium driveshaft, rack and pinion steering, tubular upper and lower control arms, ladder bar suspenion, coil over front and rear suspension.


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Couple of interior pics.


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dartsport,that's pretty light.
what parts are fiberglass?
Hood, scoop, and front bumper, are fiberglass.
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« Reply #74 on: October 26, 2008, 06:32:18 AM »

dartsport,that's pretty light.
what parts are fiberglass?
Hood, scoop, and front bumper, are fiberglass.
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Cage is mild steel..
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« Reply #75 on: November 09, 2008, 11:52:25 PM »

Anyone have a ballpark for a stock 72 Swinger, with a 318, and 904?  The reason I ask is because I need to know what leaf springs to buy.  I'm looking at the MP SS springs and they have 2800Lbs or 3800Lbs versions.  Any suggestions?
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« Reply #76 on: November 15, 2008, 10:47:49 PM »

1967 Dart GT with iron 383, 727 and 8.75. PS, manual brakes and aftermarket A/C. All trim, carpet and usual accessories. Car weighs 3550 w/o the driver; kind of porky. This is only 250 pounds less than my Hemi Challenger!  Cry
69 dart glass doors ,hood,truck , fenders,all lexan, aluminum heads rb .070 over,aerospace front brakes, modified k frame, chrome moly back half cage, dana, 2691 w/o my big butt. 9:57 138.00
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69 dart glass doors ,hood,truck , fenders,all lexan, aluminum heads rb .070 over,aerospace front brakes, modified k frame, chrome moly back half cage, dana, 2691 w/o my big butt. 9:57 138.00

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« Reply #78 on: November 16, 2008, 01:46:21 PM »

Anyone have a ballpark for a stock 72 Swinger, with a 318, and 904?  The reason I ask is because I need to know what leaf springs to buy.  I'm looking at the MP SS springs and they have 2800Lbs or 3800Lbs versions.  Any suggestions?

DO NOT get 3800# springs!! 

I have a pair of brand new 3400# springs that I pulled out. With the 3400# springs on the car, it would move just slightly when I put my full weight on the rear bumper. They are better on B bodies. Bought 3000# (002/003) springs and they seem ok.

Even 2800# is probably ok for your car, especially with a 318. Keep in mind, these springs were intended for drag racing, so a 3000# spring is MORE than adequate for a 3000# street car.

BTW, I would guess you're around 3200-3300 lbs.
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« Reply #79 on: December 26, 2008, 09:54:56 AM »

How about this combination, what it could weight?

-67 notchback Barracuda, all steel, full bucket seat interior, 440 with al.heads, al.waterpump, al.waterpump housing, al.intake, TTi headers+3" exhaust, manual steering, 4-speed manual, a-body width dana 60, 15x6,5" steelies front, 15x8" steelies back  Huh
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« Reply #80 on: December 26, 2008, 11:30:19 AM »

id say  3100 or 3200?
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« Reply #81 on: February 23, 2009, 12:10:47 PM »

From what I have found published, /6 or V8 A-bodies (small block) went a little like this:
pre 66= 2700-2900
67= 2900
68= 3000
69= 3000
70-72= 3000-3200
72-74= 3100-3300
74-76= 3400-3500

Bear in mind that published weights were for stripped down cars, also barracuda, dart, valiant, dusters were generally within 100lbs of each other. Also, big blocks add 250-300 lbs to a car, also, options add up too, a/c weighs about 100lbs, power steering weighs more, different rear ends, etc. My dart, before I tore it apart weighed in at 3050 with a 318, 727, and a/c, it was a GT model, but was pretty lightly optioned. When I get the BB in, I plan to weigh it again.
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« Reply #82 on: March 06, 2009, 11:53:26 AM »

How about this combination, what it could weight?

-67 notchback Barracuda, all steel, full bucket seat interior, 440 with al.heads, al.waterpump, al.waterpump housing, al.intake, TTi headers+3" exhaust, manual steering, 4-speed manual, a-body width dana 60, 15x6,5" steelies front, 15x8" steelies back  Huh

My 67 Notch right when I bought it weighed 3034 on Edmunds.com's 4-pad scales.

Non-original 318 with aluminum intake, 904, 7-1/4 rear end, 14x5 wheels.
Power steer, floor shift with console, manual 4-wheel drums, full dual exhaust, factory starter, iron master, 1/4 tank of gas.
No A/C, no radio, no electronic ignition.

I think that's as specific as I can get.  I figure to weigh it again once I build out a real suspension/brakes and throw on some lightweight goodies.
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« Reply #83 on: March 22, 2009, 11:09:12 AM »

I am a bit Porky

72 D-100
440/727
Aluminum intake, headers
Manual Steering, Manual brakes, 8 3/4 rear, Home Built Cal Tracs
No front or rear bumper, power buckets seats (don't ask) Base model with no options
Steel wheels, 245/60s and 295/50s street rubber
10 gallons of Fuel
W/ me (175lbs)

3750lbs



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1972 D100 2wd SB, with 440 & 727 833O/D
13.72 @ 100.9mph, 280HP 355TQ @ wheels, 3800lbs w/driver

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12.65 @ 105.8mph, 660lb w/rider

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2003 Dakota 4x4 4.7L 5speed
15.76 @ 87mph 4300lb w/driver

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« Reply #84 on: March 24, 2009, 11:39:42 PM »

WINDOW WEIGHT -

i took the quarter windows out of my 70 tonight  for some Lexan going in.

the quarter window + the steel regulator  weighs 13lbs per side  .
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« Reply #85 on: May 05, 2009, 08:00:01 AM »

I have a 71 Valiant that I stuffed a 451 in.

906 Heads (intake 290cfm) (exhaust 210cfm)

509 cam.

3.55 rear

Used to weigh 3375lbs.

need to weigh it again once I relocate my springs.  I have done alot of work to it since I have weighed it last.

That was with me in the car. 180lbs.
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