A-Body weight

[clair]

Kind of ashamed to out my porky 69 Valiant, but here she is, all 3400# of her...

All steel body
AL MC
22" copper/brass radiator
AL Stealth intake
Iron 340, 4-speed
Under-dash A/C, no compressor
87 Daytona bucket seats, stock rear bench
B-body 8.75" rear with 10" drums
11.75" disc brakes with Viper calipers
1" sway bar, 1.140" t-bars
17x8" Cobra wheels, 245/45-17 tires
TTI headers and 3" exhaust
1/4 tank of gas, 185/70-14 spare tire, jack in trunk

With me in the car (220# at the time), total weight was 3620#, and weight split was 53%F/47%R, pretty good for an "old car" with lots of iron bits.  Lots has been changed, but I haven't weighed the car since then.  Changes include:

AL 26" radiator (heavier than 22" C/B rad)
Magnum serpentine belt system
Ram Van A/C compressor
Custom Auto Air underdash (20# less than OEM!)
EFI (M1 intake, injectors, regulator, ECM, fuel pump, return line, filters)
ART subframe connectors
ART torque boxes F/R
Optima battery (15# less than 75DT)
2000 Intrepid compact spare tire (should clear Viper calipers with spacer)
Driver lost 10#, trying for another 10#

I guess we'll see how much she'll gain or lose when I finally make it to the scales again.  If I can break even with all those upgrades, I'll be really happy.  After this, I'll relocate the battery to the trunk or find a 'glass hood to shift the weight around a little.

Clair

[west]

72 scamp
gutted,aluminum interior panels
no wipers,no heater
frame connecters,8 pt cage,fuel cell,stereo system
all steel exept heavy fiberglass hood.
360/727-8 3/4,aluminum heads and intake,tti's
disc fronts,tubular uppers,steel wheels

current weight is #3310 and still need to add sound deadener and carpet
some of the posted weights seem optomistic wondering how accurate the scales are.

[bOb shingler]

my 71 demon with stock full interior, all glass, 12pt gage, dana ss springs, stock block and heads, aluminum wheels, fiberglass hood and fenders, frames tied with 2x3 inch, 10 gal fuel cell, 727 and exhaust to the dana was 3710 lbs.

[west]

my 71 demon with stock full interior, all glass, 12pt gage, dana ss springs, stock block and heads, aluminum wheels, fiberglass hood and fenders, frames tied with 2x3 inch, 10 gal fuel cell, 727 and exhaust to the dana was 3710 lbs.

about 300 lbs is in an fittings

[bOb shingler]

ya got that right for sure.

[440Dreamin]

66 Dart GT
273 / 904 / 8.75
15" cop wheels
All steel everywhere...

3280lbs no driver

[topbrent]

1968 valiant street brawler:

All Steel, no fiberglass anything.
Full interior, with front and back bench seat in car and functional. 
All heater components removed.
8 3/4, normal A-body width with yukon axles, stock 68 leaf springs(for now), cal-tracs/mono leafs waiting to be installed.
255/70/15 BFG on 15x7 steel cop rims(rear), 205/75/15 on 15.5 steel rims(front)
2"TTI headers, full 3" pipes to bumper, 2- flowmaster muffs.
15 gal Fuel Cell, electric pump w/filter/reg.
727 transmission. Hurst ratchet shifter.
Summit Aluminum Radiator
499". stroked 400, Edelbrock heads, M1 Singleplane. Iron waterpump/housing.

3180 w/o driver and full tank of fuel. 

[Dartsport]

505 cu. in.  -  440 block, no filler, no girdle, steel billet main caps, bored .030" , Callis 4.250" crank, Oliver steel rods chevy size, JE pistons, little over 14 to 1 compression, Brodix B1-BS heads, ported , Crower solid cam around .609" and .599" lift, duration?, custom built step headers 1-3/4" to 1-7/8" to 2" with merge collectors, M1 intake with 1050HP Dominator, #87 square jetting,  power valves, double roller timing chain, 35*full timing, FBO ignition system ( no MSD), BG400 ful pump,  Shogun water pump and water manifold, custom built BeeCool radiator, shroud and catch can, #8 or #10 radiator hoses, CRT 727 super/pro2 transmission (rollerized, billet aluminium front drum, bolt in sprag, Griner billet valvebody, transbrake) ,Hurst 1/4 stick shifter, with air shifter, PTC 8" converter, flashes to 5300-5400 rpm, shift at 6100 rpm, cross traps at 6300 - 6400 rpm , 4.10 gears in Ford 9" rear, Mark Williams axles, ladder bar with coil over rear suspension, Alston chassis 2"x3" box frame, coil over front suspension, rack & pinion steering , Wilwood 4 wheel disc brakes. Hoosier 32" x 13.5"w x 15" .      9.451et, 141.91mph, 1.278 - 60 foot,     Car weghs 2550 ,  2730 with driver.

[west]

dartsport,that's pretty light.
what parts are fiberglass?

[Dartsport]

dartsport,that's pretty light.
what parts are fiberglass?

Hood, scoop, and front bumper, are fiberglass.

[west]

all glass or lexan?
where do you think you lost all that weight from?

[Dartsport]

all glass or lexan?
where do you think you lost all that weight from?

    The 2 side rear windows are glass, all the rest are lexan. The car is a 2"x3" box frame chassis, aluminium floors, motor moved back and up a few inches. Moved back firewall, no inner fenders, 1 seat. Here are a few pics. No factory trunk hinges, modified trunk hinges. Aluminium driveshaft, rack and pinion steering, tubular upper and lower control arms, ladder bar suspenion, coil over front and rear suspension.

[Dartsport]

Couple of interior pics.

[fasttcars]

dartsport,that's pretty light.
what parts are fiberglass?

Hood, scoop, and front bumper, are fiberglass.

...is the cage mild steel or chromoly?

[Dartsport]

dartsport,that's pretty light.
what parts are fiberglass?

Hood, scoop, and front bumper, are fiberglass.

...is the cage mild steel or chromoly?

Cage is mild steel..

[Jake]

Anyone have a ballpark for a stock 72 Swinger, with a 318, and 904?  The reason I ask is because I need to know what leaf springs to buy.  I'm looking at the MP SS springs and they have 2800Lbs or 3800Lbs versions.  Any suggestions?

[dart9ss]

1967 Dart GT with iron 383, 727 and 8.75. PS, manual brakes and aftermarket A/C. All trim, carpet and usual accessories. Car weighs 3550 w/o the driver; kind of porky. This is only 250 pounds less than my Hemi Challenger! 

69 dart glass doors ,hood,truck , fenders,all lexan, aluminum heads rb .070 over,aerospace front brakes, modified k frame, chrome moly back half cage, dana, 2691 w/o my big butt. 9:57 138.00

[fasttcars]

69 dart glass doors ,hood,truck , fenders,all lexan, aluminum heads rb .070 over,aerospace front brakes, modified k frame, chrome moly back half cage, dana, 2691 w/o my big butt. 9:57 138.00

nice car and welcome to

[fourspeed]

Anyone have a ballpark for a stock 72 Swinger, with a 318, and 904?  The reason I ask is because I need to know what leaf springs to buy.  I'm looking at the MP SS springs and they have 2800Lbs or 3800Lbs versions.  Any suggestions?

DO NOT get 3800# springs!! 

I have a pair of brand new 3400# springs that I pulled out. With the 3400# springs on the car, it would move just slightly when I put my full weight on the rear bumper. They are better on B bodies. Bought 3000# (002/003) springs and they seem ok.

Even 2800# is probably ok for your car, especially with a 318. Keep in mind, these springs were intended for drag racing, so a 3000# spring is MORE than adequate for a 3000# street car.

BTW, I would guess you're around 3200-3300 lbs.

[Notch 67]

How about this combination, what it could weight?

-67 notchback Barracuda, all steel, full bucket seat interior, 440 with al.heads, al.waterpump, al.waterpump housing, al.intake, TTi headers+3" exhaust, manual steering, 4-speed manual, a-body width dana 60, 15x6,5" steelies front, 15x8" steelies back 

[dd69a]

id say  3100 or 3200?

[flyboy01]

From what I have found published, /6 or V8 A-bodies (small block) went a little like this:
pre 66= 2700-2900
67= 2900
68= 3000
69= 3000
70-72= 3000-3200
72-74= 3100-3300
74-76= 3400-3500

Bear in mind that published weights were for stripped down cars, also barracuda, dart, valiant, dusters were generally within 100lbs of each other. Also, big blocks add 250-300 lbs to a car, also, options add up too, a/c weighs about 100lbs, power steering weighs more, different rear ends, etc. My dart, before I tore it apart weighed in at 3050 with a 318, 727, and a/c, it was a GT model, but was pretty lightly optioned. When I get the BB in, I plan to weigh it again.

[rokketride]

How about this combination, what it could weight?

-67 notchback Barracuda, all steel, full bucket seat interior, 440 with al.heads, al.waterpump, al.waterpump housing, al.intake, TTi headers+3" exhaust, manual steering, 4-speed manual, a-body width dana 60, 15x6,5" steelies front, 15x8" steelies back 

My 67 Notch right when I bought it weighed 3034 on Edmunds.com's 4-pad scales.

Non-original 318 with aluminum intake, 904, 7-1/4 rear end, 14x5 wheels.
Power steer, floor shift with console, manual 4-wheel drums, full dual exhaust, factory starter, iron master, 1/4 tank of gas.
No A/C, no radio, no electronic ignition.

I think that's as specific as I can get.  I figure to weigh it again once I build out a real suspension/brakes and throw on some lightweight goodies.

[PunKid]

I am a bit Porky

72 D-100
440/727
Aluminum intake, headers
Manual Steering, Manual brakes, 8 3/4 rear, Home Built Cal Tracs
No front or rear bumper, power buckets seats (don't ask) Base model with no options
Steel wheels, 245/60s and 295/50s street rubber
10 gallons of Fuel
W/ me (175lbs)

3750lbs

[493dart]

WINDOW WEIGHT -

i took the quarter windows out of my 70 tonight  for some Lexan going in.

the quarter window + the steel regulator  weighs 13lbs per side  .

[Valiant451]

I have a 71 Valiant that I stuffed a 451 in.

906 Heads (intake 290cfm) (exhaust 210cfm)

509 cam.

3.55 rear

Used to weigh 3375lbs.

need to weigh it again once I relocate my springs.  I have done alot of work to it since I have weighed it last.

That was with me in the car. 180lbs.

[rebelyelltex]

'69 dodge dart gt

no engine
no trans
no doors
no glass
no interior
light weight plywood box seat

estimated weight..  about 1800-2000..  makes one hell of a soap box derby car though   

[PureGTS]

Originally a /6 904 7 1/4 white w/ vinyl top
Today: V8 K-member, 72 360/408 Eddy heads, RPM air gap, 780 Holley VS, Doug Thorley headers, 3" X pipe, dynomax mufflers, TTI 3" tail pipes, 727, 3.23 8 3/4 LSD, subframe connectors, Cordoba 11 3/4 discs, FF 1 1/8 front sway bar, Classic auto air aftermarket A/C, P/S, All steel body except AAR Hood, gas strut hood springs, Basically stock interior (converted to aftermarket bucket seats), Dynamat under carpet, ralley wheels (rear w/ MT drag radials), weighed w/ 1/4 tank of gas.

3240 w/o driver   (1880 front 1360 rear; 57/43 weight bias)

[hawaiiandart]

Hi, first post guys...
'74 Dart Sport 360, bone stock original suvivor with bench seat/fold down back seat/sunroof/air conditioning...3,530 without me.

[evil twin racing]

69 dart race ready glass doors, hood, bumpers, trunk lid and front fenders, lexan windows, car is back halfed with narrowed dana 60 with four link and coil over shocks, wilwood brakes, aluminum dash, plastic seat, full cage
tubular upper control arms up front, motor is big block 451 stroker with eddy victor heads with hughes built poweglide trans, centerline wheels small fuel cell with single battery
car weight without driver 2595 lbs