e-body spindles

[64 Dart in a Donut]

I have a 64 dodge dart with a 340 and a 4-speed, i am still in high school and since i have to pay for the car myself, i dont have much money. i want to drop the car to increase its handling, i talked to an old stock car driver and he said to lower his 68 dart he put e-body spindles on it, and that he simply had to oblong two holes to make them work. is it the same for the early a bodies, and would the spindles make it so i could use e-body disc brakes to, i plan on droping the back by cuting the spring mount and reversing it

[sbkidz]

I think thats a faulty memory on your buddys part.  The upper ball joint is bigger in the E, than the early A.   I'm assuming you are still running the 9" drums?  even still, the e spindles, if the BJs were the same, would not lower the ride height.

Cheep way to lower it some (1" or so).  adj. the front T bars down, add blocks under the perches on the rear housing.

Smart way?  convert to later LBP disks (UCAs and spindles needed).....get drop spindles from  Fatman(?).   block rear springs and or fab a drop front hanger.

[64 Dart in a Donut]

what does lbp stand for, and maybe i am the one whos wrong, he might have said the whole front suspention, but if thats true it would make the car wider, witch is ok on a stock car but not on a street car

[joesnow]

The E body and '73 and later A body use the same disk spindle. You do need the upper control arm, because the ball joint for the spindle is larger.It will  not make it lower or wider.But it will stop better. LCA means lower control arm

[64ragtop]

what does lbp stand for, and maybe i am the one whos wrong, he might have said the whole front suspention, but if thats true it would make the car wider, witch is ok on a stock car but not on a street car

LBP stands for Large Bolt Pattern.  5 bolts in a 4.5 bolt circle, rather than your stock 4 inch bolt circle.  And you're right about wider, and it would make a mighty funny lookin' street car!

[340fyd]

If I'm not mistaken the spindles from an E-body are the same as mine that I'm running on my car now.  Which they came from a 74 A-body.  The spindles will work, but I think that you need the 74 and up A-body ucl to work.

Lee

[GGs66GT]

First thing to do is convert to late 73-76 Disc brakes, you'll need the upper control arms ,spindles, rotors, calipers and wheel bearings from a donor car Dart or Val.

New Master cylinder, adjustable proportioning valve, brake flex lines. Also 15" front wheels and tires for starters. The rear axle can be swapped later for an 8 1/4"  with 10" brakes and LBP wheels.

The above is to keep you out of someones rear end and out of the hospital.

As for lowering the car Change the Torsion Bars for a pair of H.D. v-8 bars and crank down the adjustment.

The rear is the easiest, remove the front spring hangers and flip them over then take a rattail file to mount holes on the body and elongate them to fit.

[crvtec90]

First thing to do is convert to late 73-76 Disc brakes, you'll need the upper control arms ,spindles, rotors, calipers and wheel bearings from a donor car Dart or Val.

New Master cylinder, adjustable proportioning valve, brake flex lines. Also 15" front wheels and tires for starters. The rear axle can be swapped later for an 8 1/4"  with 10" brakes and LBP wheels.

The above is to keep you out of someones rear end and out of the hospital.

As for lowering the car Change the Torsion Bars for a pair of H.D. v-8 bars and crank down the adjustment.

The rear is the easiest, remove the front spring hangers and flip them over then take a rattail file to mount holes on the body and elongate them to fit.
 
not trying to jack this thread, but i am curious how much rear drop do u get when u flip the leaf spring  hangers? i would like to try this on my 66 dart to get about 2 inches without using blocks.

[GGs66GT]

The flip is good for 1" and it brings the pinion snubber closer to the floor for added traction. I did this with the 7 1/4" axle.

The 8 1/4" is on the floor and waiting for installation.

[grimreaper]

I've been told that when converting to the 73-76 disc setup on the front of early A bodys you end up with a slightly wider track. (Maybe due to spindle / hub arrangement?) Can anyone confirm this?  If so, how much wider is it?   What is the difference from drum face to drum face vs disc face to disc face where the wheels mount?

THANKS!

[64 Dart in a Donut]

I havent been on in a while but thanks a ton guys, i already have some 15s with the bigger bolt pattern and an 8 3/4 in the back i guess the suspension is out of a 65 dart but i want discs. now i guess its time to start looking for parts how can i improve handling with this setup (no mustang II i dont have the money) where can i get stronger springs i already have sway arms

[sniffy]

Question???



I have the 73 ebody spindles calipers and the rest  EXCEPT  my upper controll arms are bad.
What can I pirate them from?    As long as I have these spindles and brakes can I use
an arm from a F or B body?


Thanks

[bbscamp]

Ive got a set of the 73+ Arms.  The thread in 1 is very very thin.  You can either weld in a thread saver or run a new BJ in and tack it for safety.  Both are sandblasted and painted.  You'll need to install BJs and bushings.   $50 for the pair plus shipping from 08610.

[sniffy]

I'll take the arms.

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