lowering front end

[440valiant]

hey there,

i have heard many times before that it is easy to lower the front suspension on my 64 valiant, but i have heard many different ways and stories, i was wondering if anybody knows how to lower the front end?>?

[west]

depends on how far
1-2" adjust the bars
2-3" drop spindles
more than 3" coilovers w/bags

[375InStroke]

You can almost get the K-frame to touch the ground by adjusting the torsion bars.  I can't fit a floor jack under my cars, and on some dips, the K-frame hits.  What good does extra travel with dropped spindles do if you're already able to scrape the ground?

[PureGTS]

    

[west]

You can almost get the K-frame to touch the ground by adjusting the torsion bars.  I can't fit a floor jack under my cars, and on some dips, the K-frame hits.  What good does extra travel with dropped spindles do if you're already able to scrape the ground?

because you are sacraficing handling by turning the bars that far.

[karfixer]

You may be a "god" on but you don't know ____ about mopar suspensions.  Tubular UCAs will allow for plenty of suspension adjustment, trimming the bump stops will restore some of the suspension travel, good shocks that have proper travel are needed.  T-bars should be thicker, but if you want a car to handle that's a given. The only spindles are the crappy fatman units and they are only useful for trailer queens or skinney tired street rods.

[west]

You may be a "god" on but you don't know ____ about mopar suspensions.  Tubular UCAs will allow for plenty of suspension adjustment, trimming the bump stops will restore some of the suspension travel, good shocks that have proper travel are needed.  T-bars should be thicker, but if you want a car to handle that's a given. The only spindles are the crappy fatman units and they are only useful for trailer queens or skinney tired street rods.

nobody mentioned anything about the upper control arms. And in my experience as limited as it is,turning the bars all the way down without other mods does in fact decrease the handling abilities of the car.

[sr71mopar]

Hey fixer lets see your race winning ideas.

[375InStroke]

You can almost get the K-frame to touch the ground by adjusting the torsion bars.  I can't fit a floor jack under my cars, and on some dips, the K-frame hits.  What good does extra travel with dropped spindles do if you're already able to scrape the ground?

because you are sacraficing handling by turning the bars that far.

Is this a fact?  When a Mopar's front suspension is lower than stock, there is a greater camber change for the better when going around a corner than when at stock ride height.  Not to mention the lower center of gravity, lower instant center, and lower roll center.  The increased roll couple is a detractor, though.  This is similar to what was done to the original Shelby GT350s when they lowered the cars by 1" and lowered the upper control arm pivots 1".  Ford engineer Klaus Arning and Shelby American GT 350 project engineer Chuck Cantwell both thought is was a good compromise.