Quicktime bellhousings

[dartcharger_270]

I am looking at running a QuickTime bellhousing for my 65 Dart that will have a 440 in it, does anyone have experience with these?  They appear smaller overall than a stock 10.5" bellhousing so fitment may be slightly better.

[Bakaruda]

Never heard of them.

[340fyd]

Never heard of them.

Me neither.

Lee

[Tejas]

http://www.quicktimeinc.com/index.html

[fstfish66]

QUICK TIME IS A COMPANY MAKING BELL HOUSINGS FOR ALL AMERICAN ENGINES ENCLUDING MOPAR TO ADAPT A TREMEC TRANNY TO YOUR MOTOR,,,

SOME ARE BELL HOUSING STYLE,,,AND OTHERS ARE SCATTERSHIELD,,
SOME ARE ALMOST A SCATTER SHIELD,,,THEY DO NOT HAVE CERTIFACATION FROM N.H.R.S OR  I.H.R.A BECAUSE THEY DO NOT HAVE  THE LOWER BOLTED LIP LIKE A SCATTER SHIELD,,

THEY SAY THEY MAY CONSIDER  A CERTIFIED SCATTER SHIELD FOR SMAL BLOCK MOPAR  TO TREMEC IF THE DEMAND IS THERE,,,BUT THERE EXCUSE IS  IT COST LESS,,WEIGHS LESS AND HAS MORE GROUND CLEARANCE,,,

NICE PRODUCT FOR A STREET CAR TREMEC CONVERSION,,,IDE HAVE ONE IF IT WAS A SCATTER SHIELD FOR A 340

[66DDart]

fstfish66,

Just to let you know, the small block to 833 transmission are now SFI approved.  Quick Time received SFI approval and the first set of SFI approved bell housings started shipping the week before Christmas (about the same time this thread was started).  If you are needing/wanting one....or just want to see actual pictures of one, let me know as I still have 1 in stock and don't mind taking a few pictures for ya'.  If you anywhere near Cincinnati, OH, let me know and you can see one in person.


dartcharger270,

Not sure what tranny you plan to run behind that 440 so I'm not 100% sure which bellhousing you'll need.  Currently Quick Time has a few other Mopar bellhousings that have received SFI approval and they are working to get several more approved.  I _can_ tell you that the big block to 833 will ONLY use a 10.5" (130 tooth) flywheel...and there are NOT any current plans to start making one to accomodate the 11" (143 tooth) flywheel.


How do I know...I started by buying a new lakewood for my '66 Dart, then I learned I'd have to knock in the body seam in the tranny tunnel to get it to fit (I'm NOT going cut up my car in anyway!).  I happened upon Quick Times website, talked extensively with Ross (the owner) and bought a non-SFI SB to 833 just to see the quality and ultimately became a dealer for them.  The non-SFI _did_ pass the testing (and they still have a few of those forsale) but, SFI still wanted the lower portion of the block plate to be more securely attached to the housing (on factory bellhousings, this would be called the "inspection plate).  The non-SFI small block 833 (with aluminum block plate) weighed in at 28.5 lbs, lakewood (steel block plate) is 44 lbs, and the SFI approved (aluminum block plate) small block 833 weighs closer to 30 lbs (due to the added material and added bolts).  The QT housing are "spun steel" and as such the steel has been work hardened....thus making it much stronger than the hydro-formed lakewood.

Now, if you know anyone looking for a brand new lakewood for a small block....let me know, I'll sell them one CHEAP!  If you know anyone looking for any Quick Time products, let me know and I'll gladly help them out as well.


-Phil Massie

[sycboi]

If you know anyone looking for any Quick Time products, let me know and I'll gladly help them out as well.


-Phil Massie

Why aren't they making the Big Block Mopar bell to a Viper T-56 instead of to the chevy T-56 unit?

[dartcharger_270]

I am actually looking at the one for big block to 833 with 10.5" clutch.

[340fyd]

Wow, another source.  Killer.

Lee

[66DDart]

sycboi,

They started with the T56 Chevy since there tends to be more wrecked Vettes than Vipers and thus used trannies are easier to come by.  As making an SFI bellhousing to fit to a Viper tranny....they are currently working on both a SB and BB to the T56 Viper.  The part numbers are RM-8073 (Big block) and RM-8074 (Small block).  The original plan was to have them completed and SFI certified by the end of March 2008 but, due to demand, they will be completed and ready forsale in roughly 3 weeks (end of Jan.).


dartcharger_270,

The one that your needing is part # RM-6073 (Big block to 3-4 speed) and are available in SFI and non-SFI, with non-SFI being a bit cheaper.  They are listed as 3 or 4 speed in that they come with different spacers that can be used depending on your tranny's front bearing retainer diameter (4.350", 4.80", or 5.125").  If you'd like to discuss purchasing one, feel free to give me a call directly at 937-403-2356.

I should also mention that within 4 weeks EVERY Mopar bellhousing Quick Time makes will be SFI certified, in-stock, and ready to ship.  They do still have some non-SFI units (for those not planning on running 10.99) for a little less but, when they are gone...they're gone!



-Phil

[fstfish66]

fstfish66,

Just to let you know, the small block to 833 transmission are now SFI approved.  Quick Time received SFI approval and the first set of SFI approved bell housings started shipping the week before Christmas (about the same time this thread was started).  If you are needing/wanting one....or just want to see actual pictures of one, let me know as I still have 1 in stock and don't mind taking a few pictures for ya'.  If you anywhere near Cincinnati, OH, let me know and you can see one in person.


dartcharger270,

Not sure what tranny you plan to run behind that 440 so I'm not 100% sure which bellhousing you'll need.  Currently Quick Time has a few other Mopar bellhousings that have received SFI approval and they are working to get several more approved.  I _can_ tell you that the big block to 833 will ONLY use a 10.5" (130 tooth) flywheel...and there are NOT any current plans to start making one to accomodate the 11" (143 tooth) flywheel.


How do I know...I started by buying a new lakewood for my '66 Dart, then I learned I'd have to knock in the body seam in the tranny tunnel to get it to fit (I'm NOT going cut up my car in anyway!).  I happened upon Quick Times website, talked extensively with Ross (the owner) and bought a non-SFI SB to 833 just to see the quality and ultimately became a dealer for them.  The non-SFI _did_ pass the testing (and they still have a few of those forsale) but, SFI still wanted the lower portion of the block plate to be more securely attached to the housing (on factory bellhousings, this would be called the "inspection plate).  The non-SFI small block 833 (with aluminum block plate) weighed in at 28.5 lbs, lakewood (steel block plate) is 44 lbs, and the SFI approved (aluminum block plate) small block 833 weighs closer to 30 lbs (due to the added material and added bolts).  The QT housing are "spun steel" and as such the steel has been work hardened....thus making it much stronger than the hydro-formed lakewood.

Now, if you know anyone looking for a brand new lakewood for a small block....let me know, I'll sell them one CHEAP!  If you know anyone looking for any Quick Time products, let me know and I'll gladly help them out as well.


-Phil Massie

    thanks,, but from E-MAILS  ive recieved there bell housings are approved,,but not CERTIFIED,,,they do not have the lower lip that bolts the bell housing to the block saver plate completeing it makig it a scattershield,,,if they do please inform me,,,

[sycboi]

sycboi,

They started with the T56 Chevy since there tends to be more wrecked Vettes than Vipers and thus used trannies are easier to come by.  As making an SFI bellhousing to fit to a Viper tranny....they are currently working on both a SB and BB to the T56 Viper.  The part numbers are RM-8073 (Big block) and RM-8074 (Small block).  The original plan was to have them completed and SFI certified by the end of March 2008 but, due to demand, they will be completed and ready forsale in roughly 3 weeks (end of Jan.).

Great news!  What do one of these bells cost anyways?

-Michael

[fstfish66]

QUICK TIME TOLD ME YOU CAN BUY DIRECT FROM THEM,,SMAL BLOCK TO TREMEC WAS  365.00 BUCKS,,,GREAT DEAL IN MY OPINION,,,

[66DDart]

Sorry for the delay in getting back to everyone.  I've been stuck working 15+ hours a day lately and wanted to get some pictures for everyone to see....and hopefully clearify the SFI certification concerns.

Currently Quick Time has both...SFI certified and non-certified in stock (at least in most part numbers).  Once the non-certified bellhousings are gone (sold slightly cheaper than SFI-certified as one could imagine), they are GONE!  No more will be made.  Only SFI certified bellhousing are being made from now on.

Take a look at....

http://www.bigblockdart.com/photopost/showgallery.php?cat=500&ppuser=6687

The cadmium plated bellhousing is a big block to T5 and is NON-SFI.  If you look closely at the lower lip you will see that there are only 2 small bolts that connect the lower portion of the block/inspection plate to the bellhousing.  In order to get SFI certified Quick Time was required to increase the bolt size (3/8" diameter I believe, off the top of my head) add 5 additional bolts to secure the plate.....please refer to the pictures of the BLACK bellhousing.  The black bellhousing is SFI certified and has the added bolt holes.  Also, as part of the SFI certification requirement, Quick Time includes grade 8 fastners (they don't show well in the packaging but, they _are_ there).

Now, that probably brings up another question....will you get a black bell housing or cadmium plated?  Since cadmium is not allowed for import in many countries, Quick Time is in the process of changing production over to black powder coating.  So, everything from here on out will be manufactured in black.

Pricing....I can only list them for list price.  Dealers have strick orders not to sell under list or they (QT) will stop shipping to us.  With that said, I would like to highly recommend you call me if you are serious about purchasing one....937-403-2356.


Thanks,

Phil

[rjsjea]

Do they come with the adapter or spacer needed for the T56's input shaft??

[fstfish66]

are these

[fstfish66]

are these SFI APPROVED/CERTIFIED  tremec to mopar for small block as well if so im intrested,,,perfer cad color,,or non powder coated,, but ill take what i can get,,,, e mail me ill call you,,,fstfish66@aol.com  thanks

[fstfish66]

 ok i E-MAILED QUICK TIME  heres there reply,,,i hope this transfers from my e mail,,,



The Mopar bells are now SFI certified. (We still have some in the non-SFI at a discounted rate). The SFI bell's are available in SB and BB for the TKO 500/600, muncie pattern, Mopar 3-4 speed, or the T56 chevy LS1(hydraulics) now.  Also the BB and SB Mopar's to the Viper will be available the end of next week.  All SFI bell's retail in the $422 category.  If you do not need the SFI we have some bells available in the $300 category.  When they are gone they are gone.   All new QuickTime bell's are in polymer powdercoat black.  All new Mopar models will use the Mopar fork.  There will be pictures and a 3D rendering on the website very soon. www.quicktimeinc.com
 
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Over 50 other distributers call for your nearest dealer.  641-673-4468
 
 
Please post if you wish.  We have tried to supply what the Mopar people have asked for.  Thanks for your interest in QuickTime products.
 
Thank you,
Ross McCombs
QuickTime Inc.
641.673.4468

[daves66valiant]

Thanks for the info Don. It would be cool if they made a bellhousing for the new 5.7L with a t56 chevy or mopar.

[fstfish66]

dave go to there site  they do make it for a 5.7,,and for some strange reason they make a bell housing mopar engine to muncie tranny,,,,who would use that junk,,an 833 is way more superior to that crap,,

quick time makes bell housings for every american engine to most any american tranny,,, also viper t 56 and  the lessor grade t 56 chevy tranny

the beauty is,,if you have an early A they are smaller in size where it counts,,like my older ansen scatter shield,,,the lake wood is kinda large,,,compared to the quick time,,,

quick time is discounting the first generation bell housing for tremec to mopar at 300.00 direct sales from quick time

its about time mopar guys get the parts at a affordable price,,, im  sure  ROSS MCcombs  inventer of these bell housing wont read this tread,,but i take my hat off to him,,,       
66DDART  on this site is a distributor and a nice guy,,, maybe he will pass along to ross,,,a big THANKS,,,

[Alexandre_Garcia]

muncie tranny and mopars are not a bad mix. Here in Brasil all Mopars have a tranny bolt pattern that is just like the chevy one. We cannot use a A833 in our cars unles we do have a bellhousing for that. Guess that the 833 are getting scarce, and much harder to find as time goes by. If we can get a bellhousing good for another popular pattern, that's fine. And sincerely, I do not see an A833 much stronger than the M22.

[66DDart]

Just wanted to add a little insight on the Muncie transmission pattern, and I didn't know this until it was explained to me today.  The Tremec transmissions are available in two VERY different configurations, Ford and GM.  When GM went to use the Tremec they specified that it be backwards compatable (ie. have a Muncie bolt pattern)....and thus the main reason Quicktime made a small block mopar to Muncie bellhousing from the get-go. 

Also, inorder for the Tremec to be backwards compatable they had to redesign the input shaft and front retainer/case.  I _might_ have this backwards but the Chevy Tremec has a input shaft that is 3/4" shorter and sits higher in relation to the body of the transmission....thus the reason Quicktime could not build one scttershield with multiple bolt patterns on the back plate to work with both styles of Tremecs.

[fstfish66]

from every thing ive read searching the TKO TREMEC,, the  FORD  TREMEC is the one that works in the mopar,,altho the ford in put shaft is a tiny bit shorter then the mopar,,it still is long enough to go in to the mopar crank,,so all you need is a pilot bushing or roller bearing,,that mounts in the converter register hole of the crank shaft,,
the muncie is too short to reach in to the mopar crank,,

but if you want  a 6 speed,, the TREMEC T-56  quick time has a bell housing comming,,also  the new camaro and challenger wil both be  6 speeds,,and tremec  is working with GM and MOPAR to make as many tranny parts compatable bewtween the both,,,,so  6 sppe dwill be easier in the near future,,,,

66DDART ,, I  send you e mail,,, ill call you today the money is in the mail,,,,,66DDART is a nice guy to deal with

[sycboi]

66DDART is a nice guy to deal with

Agreed...I sent my money out today as well!

-Michael

[fstfish66]

66DDART is a nice guy to deal with

Agreed...I sent my money out today as well!

-Michael

WHAT BELL HOUSING DID YOU GET

[sycboi]

I purchased the RM-8073 (BBM to Viper T-56).  It will be ready for release in a week or so...


-Michael

[rjsjea]

Let us know how it all lines up........heard the starter doesnt line up quite right on the Gen3 Hemi's.  Does the bell come with the adapter/spacer(?) to assemble??

[fstfish66]

I purchased the RM-8073 (BBM to Viper T-56).  It will be ready for release in a week or so...


-Michael

 KOOL VIPER SPEC T-56  SOUNDS GREAT,,

[daves66valiant]

I purchased the RM-8073 (BBM to Viper T-56).  It will be ready for release in a week or so...


-Michael

 KOOL VIPER SPEC T-56  SOUNDS GREAT,,

I'm thinking the t-56 may be a great way to go for my 68 dart 440 project. I still need to check out the OD gear ratio in 6th gear. I've already done one 5spd tremec tranny swap and I bet I would have no problems doing it myself this time around without a kit from Keisler and just using the Quicktime bell. The hydraulic clutch slave cylinder is easier with the 67-up abodies as well. You can get that unit from Wilwood.

Have fun Don, I'll get that roller bearing out to you soon.

Dave

[fstfish66]

DAVE,, ANOTHER CAR SOUNDS GREAT,,I TALKED WITH CLASIC 5 SPEED,, THEY HAVE A REALLY KOOL SHIFTER  RED ROBERTS FROM MC LEOD DESIGNED FOR THEM  BEFORE HE LEFT ,,,,,IT WAS DESIGNED FOR THE CORVETTE,,,BUT WILL WORK IN AN  A  BODY AS WELL,, CANT WAIT TO SE THE PICS AND THE PRICE

THANKS DAVE,, CANT WAIT TO GET THAT BEARING THANKS AGAIN DON
PS LET ME KNOW WHEN YOU RECIEVE THE  MONEY