I hate this stuff

[PureGTS]

  With the recent rains in So. Cal. I decided it was time to get the car ('68 Dart 2 dr, NON-post) sealed up finally. I've been collecting the weather strips and have finally gotten busy putting things into place. I spent the bucks to get the rear window regulators' rollers back up 000000000to snuff. Inparticular the rear guide track rollers. $90 and several hours per side later, the rear windows are adjusted and functioning properly. All completely disassembled, cleaned and lubed and reinstalled.
  Yesterday, I installed the new upper window weatherstrip along the roof line, C and A pillars. In the process of adjusting the depth adjustment of the right quarter window, to hit the center of the weatherstrip, the rear roller broke (again!). The window won't come forward and up enough to hit the seal or seal the window in the front. It hits the rear first while pivoting but too early. I've adjusted every portion I can think of and it still won't go up right. After the roller broke I faught it long enough to decide to lock it in place and to He** with it; it gets no window crank handle, so it doesn't get messed with or cause a leak. Then I shut the front door and the quarter glass is too far forward! As if that wasn't enough, the door glass doesn't contact the weathger strip on either side. Nor does it follow the same "curve" the quarter window does, leaving about a 3/8" - 7/16" gap at the top os the window away from the weatherstrip.  It is the same on both sides. Now, I did disassemble the doors, removing the glass and regulator mechanisms for cleaning and lubing, but I didn't remove the windwing and its guides. What's the deal? The body lines match up, but the glass doesn't. And there's nothing in the door that can adjust the glass closer at the top with the window in the up position. What did I do!?!? OR what do I do now?

[bOb shingler]

 

[69DartW250]

Maybe the UP stops need to be adjusted? If one is hitting early it could throw the window crooked in full up.

George

[flyboy01]

There are a few adjustments. If you lay down and look up at the bottom of the door, there is an adjusting stud that adjusts the angle of the door glass, which tilts it in or out. Another adjustment is at the front in the jamb, another stud (about 3" from the top) that can adjust the angle. There is also a stop that adjusts how far down the window goes behind the door panel. There is also a hidden allen bolt through that little hole in the upper door panel. You really need to look in a factory service manulal for adjustment procedures, when you adjust one, it can throw the others out of whack. I had to order the manual to even figure that much out.

[68_Val_Sedan]

 

The manual has a wealth of information

[PureGTS]

I found most of the problem and this now begins a new problem. The new weather strip is too thick where the glass meets it for the door and the quarter glass where it is supposed to go in. In that area it isn't wide enough to allow the glass to even enter into it. It tends to pull the whole thing into the weatherstrip groove rather than splitting it. The MFG is Metro sold under the Super Soft label. Has anybody else run into this problem and if so how did you fix it or who's weatherstrip did you finally buy? I came incredibly close to hacking it to death with a razor to open the lip up to allow the glass to go in.
  I'll look into the allen wrench thing tomorrow...  I forgot about that little goody.

[Jim_Lusk]

I had a problem with the door glass in the 67 Barracuda we sold in '06. The doors had been apart for so long and probably not stored optimally that when all was together the gap between the outer shell and inner shell of both doors was too small at the rear. I contemplated what to do since the car was painted and had brand new weatherstrip. I finally decided that my porta-power opening jaws were the best tool to spread the door and do minimal damage. It worked nicely and the windows worked. Sooooooooo, measure your gaps and if they are too close make some adjustments.....

[PureGTS]

It's is starting to look like the fenders AND the doors are not positioned properly (this is what happens when you have a fresh pair of eyes look at the problem), as in, too far to the rear. Of course, the car is painted and now I'm looking at readjusting the fenders AND the doors forward about 1/4" on the Driver's side and 3/16" on the Passenger's side.    The body lines match, but he showed me where the body gaps are not so right and a bit tight.  Did I mention how much I hate this!?!?    I could just spit...

[Mopar Tom]

I think there's some almighty reason God gives us these challenges--either make us better men or women or the ultimate checkout ?
I got my beltstrips from Restoration Specialties & Supply in Pennsylvania for my 72 Scamp. Talked to Dave there --he had patterned off his 72 Scamp . $100  It's my only experience with beltstrips so ,,,,they look pretty good . I had talked to him about install & he gave me a few tips . One seemed to unfurl itself when you rolled rear window all the way down. He said it shouldn't & to adjust in & out with the tracks . I tried but didn't get much better . Rolls back up as soon as the window edge hits it on roll-up .I am leaving them up over winter thinking it will take a "set" . Had to adjust stop down to get fronts in . I'm not sure I would have the patience to do the extent you did.!!! I was clueless to all the adjustments  per flyboy. OOOOOPS . BBIG BRAINFART -------SORRY Pure GTS You are talking about the rubbers ---It pays to read !! Never mind !
The manual sounds like a great idea (I SUPPOSE YOU NEED TO READ IT TOO???)
  By the bye where did you get the rollers ?  Was the rearmost (or is there ) double articulating roller with the kit . In another thread jet-taz said Layson's carry them--I couldn't get the # he gave to work but never called them .  Curious about your's??/ ---from Metro too ?
Hang in there man!!!! You'll get it !!!! If it was supposed to be easy ,,it would be a Shivvy!!!--Mopar Tom

[PureGTS]

I got the roller kit from R/T specialties at the Vegas show. The kit did include the double articulating rollers. They were the main reason for me getting the kit as I hadn't been able to locate them individually. These were also the things that broke.  Currently, I'm still leaning towards the weatherstrip being designed wrong, as in comparison to the old ones, they are thicker in most aspects. Today I'm loosening ALL the fender bolts to realign them and then move the doors forward. I'm betting, I'll find out that after doing this, that the doors are already forward and my level of frustration will reach critical mass.  I think I'll wait until after Barrett Jackson sells off my dream car (lot#1218). I used to have one and I need a good cry to see how much my Ex-wife     got me to get rid of.

[Mopar Tom]

 Thanks  , Pure GTS ,,now since you've told me , I found them in an old add of R/T Spec.'s in Mopar Collector Guide .
I have a simple repair for that articulating roller that I think is superior to the original . If you're interested ,,give me a holler and I'll shoot you the details .
Is there any update on your dilemna I see you're stil getting plenty of rain !!!!-------Mopar Tom

[PureGTS]

I'd love to get anything that has more strength and does the same thing. It's pretty appearant that the OE isn't going to hang. Currently I'm looking at realigning everything. I'm at the point where the fun is gone and I'm finding other things to do instead of this. (insert whining here) Naps are the first thing that seems to happen instead.
  The rain continues and, since the windshield and rear glass are out, I'd like nothing more than to get past this. I'm doing the, was doing the, weather striping until this happened and now I'm afraid to do any more until this alignment issue is corrected as, undoubtedly, something else will show up to screw things up again. Its very disheartening. I can't do the headliner with the glass in (makes it easier) and I can't move it once the headliner is in to get the glass done. With the interior out the headliner is easier to do, but the cat the sprayed the dash in the first place (5 times), I'm afraid is still out there. It lives under a car cover but it is only so water resistant. It has $4K in paint that hasn't seen the light of day for more than 24 consecutive hours in three years. The sun only sees it when I'm working on it. The gas has probably gone south again too.

[Mopar Tom]

PureGTS ,,Did you get my message reply ? It was lengthy & I was timed out ( I live in inbreeder dial-up land)
If it's lost shoot me an e-mail (address is in my profile ) and I'll try again ------------Mopar Tom

[PureGTS]

yup, got it. Now the engineering begins.