A-body Heddman headers install w/ B engine.

[tony GTS]

GO WITH THE HOOKERS 

[tony GTS]

 >.>.>.>HOOKERS SUPER COMP!

[mopar_eric]

the mini starter is one of the main reasons I'm trying to make time to get the pro parts on the car

hedmans requiring the big one that's 4 years old is making me nervous! and changing that sucker is a major pain....


Oh yea check these out... I ordered some for the pro parts today.. http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=FLO%2D15925&N=700+115&autoview=sku

[tony GTS]

I HATE THE BIG STARTERS; ari440 I LIKE THE STANCE OF YOUR DUSTER, WHAT BRAND TIRES ARE THOSE?

[flyboy01]

>.>.>.>HOOKERS SUPER COMP!

Dude...I dont want to alarm you...but...someone stole your inner fender wells! 

[tony GTS]

it was the plasma torch

[ari440]

tony

the front tires are 27 inch tall 215 75 15 on a 3.5 rim

there belted v/w 4 ply tires

the hooker headers will not fit with this tall of a tire

the back tires are 28.5 12.5 15 m/t on a 8 inch rim 4.5 b/s

the slicks are 29.5 10.5 15 m/t,s on a 10 inch rim 5 inch b/s

stock leaf spring location

[ari440]

[ari440]

any body have pics of the SCHUMAKER conversion mounts

can you shim these mounst up to give you the same heigth as if you where using a moterplate


whould you use these on a healthy 500 hp moter

or are these a flimmsy bracket just to drop a moter in

[tony GTS]

  yea i have a set of the shumaker mounts. They are a good mount I bought them to put a 440 in my 68 gts but i wouldn't go to extreme with the horsepower of the engine because they dont look like they could handle an extreme amount of HP

[75Dart440]

I'd trust the Schumacher mount before I would the cast iron tabs on the OEM block.  Obviously for ridiculous horsepower, the engine plate is still king.

[mopar_eric]

I have the magnum mount and that has bolt throughs and I'm not expecting to need a torque strap on my 496. It's pretty solid.

I suppose you could shim them a bit but it is already so tight in there I don't know if I'd want to. It would just create less room at the back of the motor

Eric

[flyboy01]

Eric, any update on the Pro Part headers?

[mopar_eric]

Tried to stab the motor last night and it was a no-go as shortblock. Gave up trying to snake starter around the headers. I am guilty of not working TOOO hard at it since I know the new motor can use the extra 1/4" primaries... Looks like I'm committing to the pro-parts since I'd rather do that and cut holes than pull the steering column ...

I gave the hedman's a shot at staying in, looks like they turned me down more to come!

Eric

[flyboy01]

I am leaning towards the Pro Parts myself now. I was hoping you were going to say you did not want to cut holes and you would sell them to me. 

[ksdartguy]

Im a few days from running on my 1 3/4 TTIs. 400/500 low deck.
I have cut outs for it. I may go motorized, but the TTIs are smallish.
Rick

[flyboy01]

flyboy, your build is going to be very similar to mine.  I am using the Hedman 1 3/4 B body headers.  Once I figured out what had to be clearanced, they fit very well, and are nice and tight to the floor.  Better than any small block header I ever ran.  From a horsepower standpoint, I made 415 HP and 450 lb/ft of torque with a mild Crane cam.  I actually exceeded the torque numbers from a magazine article which did the same build but using 1 7/8 headers.  I am now going with the MP 292/509 (114) a new intake and carb and hope to see 450 at least. 

I am going to order the Hedman headers today from Summit. When I get them I am going to wrap them up in tape to test fit them, that way if they dont fit, I can send them back for just the shipping charges. I got a local guy that will ceramic coat them for $100, he just does not polish the coating, which I am fine with.

[flyboy01]

Got the Heddman's ordered today, we will see how they fit come this weekend, I will take bunches of pictures.

[dangerdawg]

 

[WRTMOPAR70]

will the pro parts work with a 383 and a four speed with stock linkage ?

[nightrider]

  OK OK OK OK OK OK!!!!

I WISH I HAD MY CAMERA to photograph this for you!!!!

This is what I did:

Hedman B-body headers on a low-deck with 440 source heads... heres the lowdown:

I had my motor on the engine stand and while the k-frame was out decided to mount it to the engine on the stand with the steering box installed and idler/pitman/centerlink; This way I could remove/reinstall all I wanted to until I got it right!!!!! DO NOT!!!! WAIT UNTIL THE MOTOR IS IN THE CAR TO DO THIS IF YOU HAVE A CHOICE!!!!

Here is where there is interference and needs to be cleared
I WILL TRY TO GET PHOTOS OF THE HEADERS OFF THE CAR FOR YOU!!!!!

The #2 tube needs a 1/8"-1/4" dimple where its close to the steering box right after the plug on the straight-down... bout 2 inches long...
#3 tube needs a slight clearance for the coupler on the box so the steering can rotate... again 1/8 - 1/4 inch dimple bout round as a quarter...
both passenger and driver tubes #3 #6 have to have a dime size 1/8" ding to clear the centerlink/castlenut/cotterpin
#3 tube also needs a lengthways ding to clear the drivers side torsion bar...

#3 AGAIN! may need clearancing for the ministarter I have (CHampion brand) (once again quarter size) but I don't know until I get the trans attached...

I will try to get a picture of the dings I made, even though they look more like large dents hahahahaha 

[mopar_eric]

Hey flyboy,

I went ahead and put the motor in with the hedmans, because I just didn't like how close the primaries were to the pan rail. I'm probably going to hold onto em in case I go to a RB in the car or a raised port head. I think you'll run into some clearance issues with a low deck based off the block interference I had. Then again you may not but I'm running out f time to get this car runnin on its own power since we're going to be moving at the end of the month 

My hedman's are banged up because I chose not to finesse them into working at the time, and didn't have a torch. Once they fit, they do fit though.

[Pro Street dart]

But before I reinstalled them they went to Central Ct Coatings (formally Airborn Coatings) for a sand blast and hi-temp aluminum ceramic coating inside & out.

Don't mess w/ rattle cans. Get them done right.

Mine were $235.

[flyboy01]

PLEASE POST SOME PICS! 

[BIGBLOCKAHOLIC]

i gotta set of "new" older set of CPPA headers (2" pri.tubes, 3.5"collectors was in a 70 duster w/ a 400). PM your addy I'll send the out to you.
If you like em, send me the shipping cost. if you don't just send them back. always glad to help out a fellow MoPar gearhead.

[nightrider]

PLEASE POST SOME PICS! 

haha going out this weekend to the shop, post some sunday evening... borrowing my friends camera!

[flyboy01]

i gotta set of "new" older set of CPPA headers (2" pri.tubes, 3.5"collectors was in a 70 duster w/ a 400). PM your addy I'll send the out to you.
If you like em, send me the shipping cost. if you don't just send them back. always glad to help out a fellow MoPar gearhead.

Thanks for the offer, but I already bought a set of headers, maybe someone else might need them. Anyone?

[mopowers]

i gotta set of "new" older set of CPPA headers (2" pri.tubes, 3.5"collectors was in a 70 duster w/ a 400). PM your addy I'll send the out to you.
If you like em, send me the shipping cost. if you don't just send them back. always glad to help out a fellow MoPar gearhead.

Thanks for the offer, but I already bought a set of headers, maybe someone else might need them. Anyone?

They'd be a great start for me.  I'll take you up of your offer!  Just let me know how much I owe you.

[BIGBLOCKAHOLIC]

pm sent...
looks like i didn't step on a few toes here. 

[Chameleon]

i gotta set of "new" older set of CPPA headers (2" pri.tubes, 3.5"collectors was in a 70 duster w/ a 400). PM your addy I'll send the out to you.
If you like em, send me the shipping cost. if you don't just send them back. always glad to help out a fellow MoPar gearhead.

Would those fit a 68 with shumacher mounts,manual steering and a 440?