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Anyone rebuild a manual steering box?
« on: February 06, 2008, 12:03:21 AM »

I have a manual steering box for my Duster that I want to rebuild my self. I started looking around for instructions or parts and so far I haven't found too much.  About the best that I can find is the kit from Firm Feel. I had heard that you can get a kit from the local autoparts stores but so far I havn't had any luck finding it.

Any help is greatly appreciated!

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Re: Anyone rebuild a manual steering box?
« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2008, 12:59:04 AM »

I had mine apart when I first got my car at age 16 , I pulled the steering box apart and all I remember was the ballbearings fell out all over !! hammer   

  Why do you want to rebuild it ?  They are adjustable to tighten them up , loosen the lock nut and screw inward on the adjuster with a screwdriver.  I caution you to adjust it lightly because it is hard to tell , you don't want to crank it in hard.  As far as what else I have read... some are full of grease, some have gearlube in them.  Mine is full of grease and gearlube.

  My advice to you is thick oil and an adjustment. 
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Re: Anyone rebuild a manual steering box?
« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2008, 01:17:48 AM »

I bought it at a swap meet, it is used and has been adjusted all the way in. I pulled the "cap" off to see. It is full of grease.  I want to rebuild it before I get my engine back in my car.

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Re: Anyone rebuild a manual steering box?
« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2008, 01:30:35 AM »

maybe use the firm feel kit to make a better ratio Huh maybe they have all the seals you would need too ?  mine is adjusted inward ( a little less than the full adj nut ),  but works fine.  Good Luck !
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« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2008, 06:12:26 PM »

they should be filled with grease my nos box was. i got this from a manual hope it helps.


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« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2008, 08:17:06 PM »

If it doesn't leak, you probably don't need to rebuild it, but just adjust it properly.  If you must rebuild, you probably just need the two seals ($50 from Firm Feel - robbery if you ask me) and Mancini sells the 20:1 worm gear.  I called Firm Feel and they said to fill it with gear oil.  I did.  It doesn't leak.
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Re: Anyone rebuild a manual steering box?
« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2008, 12:32:15 AM »

When I rebuilt mine I used the Firm Feel parts and packed it near full with quality moly grease. The Firm Feel kit was on the pricey side but I just wanted to get it done.  hammer One less thing to worry about. Willie
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« Reply #7 on: February 07, 2008, 04:40:59 PM »

Holy shiznit, the worm gear at mancini's is $235.
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« Reply #8 on: February 07, 2008, 07:09:01 PM »

I rebuilt one from my old 67 cougar.  somewhat similar recirculating ball blah blah blah.   it wouldnt adjust for squat so I took it apart.  one ball bearing had sheared in half.  got a replacement ball bearing from the local mustang guy for nada.   heavy grease to hold everything in place and some patience. 

wasnt what I could call difficult as I recall.
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« Reply #9 on: February 07, 2008, 07:19:08 PM »

mine needs to be rebuilt too and i just dont know what i want to do.  they are pricey to rebuild, even worse to buy a rebuilt one, then there is the flaming river piece...
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Re: Anyone rebuild a manual steering box?
« Reply #10 on: February 07, 2008, 09:54:34 PM »

Steer-n-gear has cheaper prices than firm feel and also specialize in mopars.They are located in columbus ohio.They also race mopars!
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« Reply #11 on: February 08, 2008, 06:39:52 PM »

Guys - they are NOT hard to rebuild at ALL!  The seals are spendy, and IF you need a bearing that's more, but I'd bet most of them don't need replacements.  I had one with a broken cage, but had an extra box for parts so it donated a bearing.  That's really all the moving parts in there.  I wouldn't pay someone to do it.
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Re: Anyone rebuild a manual steering box?
« Reply #12 on: February 09, 2008, 11:52:23 PM »

Mine was leaking, bought a seal kit from advance auto parts for less than $15, installed it and good to go.
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« Reply #13 on: February 10, 2008, 12:06:24 AM »

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« Reply #14 on: February 10, 2008, 10:14:07 AM »

Mine was leaking, bought a seal kit from advance auto parts for less than $15, installed it and good to go.
Roger

You wouldn't happen to know any part number for that kit, or what car you would have them look up. I have an advance auto parts right up the road, but I can only find power steering parts on there website.

I pulled my box apart yesterday and cleaned it and sand blasted it, it looks like I will only need 2 bearings and new seals.
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Re: Anyone rebuild a manual steering box?
« Reply #15 on: March 20, 2008, 03:26:49 PM »

I need to do this as well, once I can get my hands on a box (or two so I can use one as a parts donor). I've got a brand new 20:1 gearset that I got from a dude for dirt cheap since he kept his power steering setup, so once I can get a manual box and rebuild it I can convert from power to manual. Maybe it's just because I don't have one in hand, but I'm lost as to what exactly needs to be done when rebuilding a manual box. I would assume there are torque requirements for the bolts holding it all together and a certain starting point for the adjuster screw when the box is freshly rebuilt.

That oughta help me fit the 383 in when the time comes  Grin
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Re: Anyone rebuild a manual steering box?
« Reply #16 on: March 20, 2008, 11:01:24 PM »

When I rebuilt mine, I'd never been inside one before. With the Firm Feel kit and a few hand tools, I think I did a darn good job. Like Ciscodog said, it's not hard at all. Willie
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