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« Reply #30 on: February 29, 2008, 01:50:32 PM »

Very nice work.Where did you get those pins or bars from the front of the scoop to the hood to keep the scoop from flexing or cracking at high speeds.Any info would be a big help.  Moparchop.

I will take some close up pics of the jailbars tonight.

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« Reply #32 on: February 29, 2008, 06:12:10 PM »

I'm only stroked to 483 cid. Remeber, where your engine is at max rpm mine is just getting into its happy place. Guess that's why Ford is back into overhead cam engines. If I remeber right didn't Chrysler experiment with an overhead cam prototype head for the hemi after the Cammer came out?


 they probably scrapped that idea after they realized the Hemi design was already perfect. I wonder if anyone back then  realized ALL topfuelers would be running Hemi style engines now...regardless of brand
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« Reply #33 on: February 29, 2008, 08:03:23 PM »

WOW Tom; the Hemi scoop looks freekin outrageous!!!! Can't wait to see her all painted up!  Shocked
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« Reply #34 on: March 01, 2008, 01:29:19 AM »

How can I learn to do fiberglassing, I know it's a good thing to be able to do, everything's fiberglass/plastic
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« Reply #35 on: March 01, 2008, 01:51:26 AM »

I would apreciate it.My 69 coronet with a 6 pak scoop would crack the scoop right down the middle every time I hit 100 mphs.I am going to put a lot of time into this paint job and I would like to know where to get the pins to keep my scoop from spliting .Please help.....
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« Reply #36 on: March 01, 2008, 02:04:46 AM »

we just used a "Lag" bolt, (round head) and a small piece of galvanized pipe on our scoops, mine's got 2, my dad's has 4, looks good enough for a race car
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« Reply #37 on: March 01, 2008, 05:10:34 AM »

The hood looks cool as hell Tom, just like the rest of that beautiful Dart. That is another car that I would like to see in person.
BUT! I need to see more pictures of that front motor slingshot too! I love the old school stuff.

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« Reply #38 on: March 02, 2008, 09:55:51 PM »

Here are the jailbar pics as requested.


3/8" aluminum bar stock from Home Depot


drill and tap for 1/4" X 20


stainless button head allen screw from Home Depot. Install the same size screw and fender washer on top of the hood scoop.

In conclusion the scoop is very rigid

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« Reply #39 on: March 02, 2008, 10:01:11 PM »

Made the carb to hood seal this weekend. Sandwiched 1/8" thick aluminum plate between the carbs and raised base air cleaners. Moroso seal kit. Tigged on some aluminum clips. Tapered the seal with the sloped hood.







I believe it is now time to weld up the exhaust.
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« Reply #40 on: March 02, 2008, 10:22:29 PM »

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« Reply #41 on: March 02, 2008, 10:44:45 PM »

DAMN, nice work as always Tom.  What are you using for foam?
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Re: hood scoop progress NEW PICS
« Reply #42 on: March 02, 2008, 11:03:46 PM »

Thanks for the e-mail.I didnt think anyone was going to give me a straight answer.You are the man on the fabrication.Nice work and thanks again.chop.....
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« Reply #43 on: March 02, 2008, 11:47:56 PM »

DAMN, nice work as always Tom.  What are you using for foam?

Thanks guys.

If anyone needs the seal foam, Summit and Jegs sell it. It is Moroso 4" tall and 1.5" wide. A 60" piece will run you $12.
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« Reply #44 on: March 03, 2008, 12:00:12 AM »

Nice work Tom. Can you bring in a scrap piece of foam if you have any left?  I am wondering if I can utilize my ram air. Finshed my headers today. What a F@%#$ng pain in the ass!!!    People that custom build headers certainly earn their money!!
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« Reply #45 on: March 03, 2008, 02:08:12 AM »

If it were me, I would take the piece of foam out from between the two circles where they join. This would stop any pressure differences since there are two carbs in different places in the scoop. Its not 100% certain that there would be any difference, bit its possible. I probably would have made the base oval like the 1969 z-28 Trans-am air cleaner setup. 
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« Reply #46 on: March 03, 2008, 08:01:22 AM »

Lookin' good!
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« Reply #47 on: March 03, 2008, 08:08:54 AM »

If it were me, I would take the piece of foam out from between the two circles where they join. This would stop any pressure differences since there are two carbs in different places in the scoop. Its not 100% certain that there would be any difference, bit its possible. I probably would have made the base oval like the 1969 z-28 Trans-am air cleaner setup. 

I thought about the oval, even made one but the damn thing was so big it looked like a UFO sitting under my hood. So I cut it down and made this. The cross ram carbs are 16" on center. With 10" cleaners, 2" of air space and 1.5" of foam, the over all length is 33". There is also 1.5" of squish so they are not going anywhere.

If I had to do it again I would run a single 4. The width of the cross ram has been a real pain in the ass starting with me having to box the firewall, then K member shims, scrapping my silenced air cleaner idea.  Frustrated

Out of curiousity, anyone know what the center to center carb measurement of a Hemi cross ram?
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« Reply #48 on: March 03, 2008, 08:34:55 AM »

but, isn't that the fun in it?   Popcorn
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Out of curiousity, anyone know what the center to center carb measurement of a Hemi cross ram?
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that would be 11 3/4......btw Tom looking mucho awesome...it's going to be a serious beast when she's done 4 speed


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« Reply #50 on: March 03, 2008, 12:40:46 PM »

looks good tom, when you get it all finished up i got one just like it you can do!! Grin Grin
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Out of curiousity, anyone know what the center to center carb measurement of a Hemi cross ram?
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that would be 11 3/4......btw Tom looking mucho awesome...it's going to be a serious beast when she's done 4 speed

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« Reply #52 on: March 09, 2008, 07:45:51 PM »

Hood seal fits good.

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« Reply #53 on: March 09, 2008, 07:49:11 PM »

that's bitchen! nice work tom!
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« Reply #54 on: March 09, 2008, 11:15:58 PM »

well my garage isnt done,so I was planning on moving my hood outside to start working on it,but 13 inches of snow hit fri. and sat. and blew those plans out the window.Thanks again for the aluminum bar tip....mike
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« Reply #55 on: March 10, 2008, 08:59:10 AM »

Hello:
  Tom very nice work. 
           
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« Reply #56 on: March 10, 2008, 10:12:32 AM »

Nice work Tom. A bit more sanding and we can shoot some primer on it.
You may want to put a screen on the inlet to that scoop to prevent it from catching rubber from my Cammer powered 69!!



Is that an RC Motorsports front suspension?
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« Reply #57 on: March 10, 2008, 04:16:57 PM »

Nice work Tom. A bit more sanding and we can shoot some primer on it.
You may want to put a screen on the inlet to that scoop to prevent it from catching rubber from my Cammer powered 69!!



Is that an RC Motorsports front suspension?
It is a RC crossmember but I am using Art Morrison upper and lower control arms (The photo has the old control arms) with . I decided to switch to the A/M control arms because the RC are smaller and use the Mustang II mounts and I can't get the caster/camber angles that I can with the A/M ones. The RC kit is a great option and is affordable but there are other options out there that I think will out perform the RC kit.
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« Reply #58 on: March 10, 2008, 08:45:36 PM »

What front do you think is best? I can't decide what to use on this:

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« Reply #59 on: March 11, 2008, 09:21:26 AM »

What front do you think is best? I can't decide what to use on this:



Depends on what you are planning to do with it. If you are going to stuff a big block in it, the removal of the shock towers will give you more room but make sure the frame rails are not rusted out from the inside or your front end will be weak. I doubled the inside of my front frame rails with 3/16" steel for added support.
If you are looking for a rack and pinion steering setup and don't care about the shock towers, Flaming River has a nice rack kit.
Try the Mods forum at the Vintage Mustang Site. Many people there have used various setups and can give good insite on what will be best for you.
http://forums.vintage-mustang.com/showforum.php?fid/13/
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