Building a Hemi Dart

[oyvind]

Thanks for the tip, I have now contacted them.

I have just been offered a 68 GT for sale that has a bad engine smallblock engine. Since I'm doing the swap this is ofcourse not a problem. But the car has an A727A automatic. Can it be rebuilt to be strong enough for a hemi ??

[nothingbutdarts]

Thanks for the tip, I have now contacted them.

I have just been offered a 68 GT for sale that has a bad engine smallblock engine. Since I'm doing the swap this is ofcourse not a problem. But the car has an A727A automatic. Can it be rebuilt to be strong enough for a hemi ??

 The internals are all mostly the same depending on years but, the transmission cases are different. The small block 727A will not bolt to a big block. They are just different bolt patterns. You need a 727B

[austinbbmopar]

If your goin the MONEY route.... its gotta be a 4 speed!!! MY 2 cents! 

[hemicop]

   but if you're gonna run a manual I'd make sure you find someone that builds 'em RIGHT and you like a car that's a handful!

[oyvind]

thanks, weren't many of them autos though ?? I though most of them ran in SS/AA and only autos were allowed ?

I will probably get the books today so I guess I will be getting a lot of info now 

[austinbbmopar]

Im pretty sure Ronny Sox wasn't a pussy.... he had a STICK!

[hemicop]

  Most WERE autos (S&M was a stick) but the new SS/AH class pairs the stick & auto cars together since no other Detroit manufacturerhas anything that can run with these cars . What you have now is SS/A or SS/AA being taken over by big-block Corvettes which I find odd as Chevys ZL-1 Camaros were intended to to be competition for the Hemi A-bodies and when was the last time you saw one of them (original or clone) run against anything?

[oyvind]

How much work is it to convert from auto to manual ?

Could a transmission like this hold up to a 600-650 hp hemi ?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mopar-A833-18-Spline-Hemi-4-Speed-Transmission-Assembly_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1638Q2em118Q2el1247QQcategoryZ34208QQihZ017QQitemZ270220454385QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWD1V

[nothingbutdarts]

Traction would be a big issue. It would hold up!
 
To convert: bellhousing with fork, "Z" bar, mounting studs for the "Z" bar, shifter, pedal assembly, transmission tunnel, drive shaft length changed, flywheel, clutch, clutch rods and a few more items I can't think of now. Oh yea, lots of $$$$$$$$$

[hemicop]

 Oh, the 18-spline will hold up--for awhile. But you still have the problem of the associated clutch linkage, traction & controlling the car. These things were a handful even for veteran drivers with a 4-speed so unless you're experienced in fabrication, driving a 4-speed Hemi Dart or a fuel altered, I'd pass & use an automatic.

[BigSlim]

 Hemi Dart + 4 speed = The most fun you can have with your clothes on!!!! 

[oyvind]

Just back from looking at a 68 GT for sale not far away from me.

It's got a 8-3/4 axel. The engine / Trans is a 318 / 727A. The front fenders are fiberglass and they fit good but not perfect. I guess it's har to get them to fit perfectly. It's also got red interior.
The price is about the same as the 69 GT i posted earlier. What would you guys recommend ? 

Some pics:

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o93/hondacrf_photos/IMG_2211.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o93/hondacrf_photos/IMG_2217.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o93/hondacrf_photos/IMG_2214.jpg

[68 HEMI GTS]

Just back from looking at a 68 GT for sale not far away from me.

It's got a 8-3/4 axel. The engine / Trans is a 318 / 727A. The front fenders are fiberglass and they fit good but not perfect. I guess it's har to get them to fit perfectly. It's also got red interior.
The price is about the same as the 69 GT i posted earlier. What would you guys recommend ? 

Some pics:

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o93/hondacrf_photos/IMG_2211.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o93/hondacrf_photos/IMG_2217.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o93/hondacrf_photos/IMG_2214.jpg

sure its a 68? is doesn't have side marker lights and it has back up lights in the bumper. looks like a mut.

[oyvind]

This is what I got from vin decoding:

Body Type:   L  =  Dodge Dart / Demon
Price Class:   P  =  Premium
Body Type:   23  =  2 Door Hardtop
Engine:   D  =  273 190HP 1-2BBL 8 CYL
Year:   8  =  1968
Sequence Number: xxxxxx  =  xxxxxxth Vehical Built
VIN:  LP23D8Bxxxxxx
YEAR:  1968
MODEL:  Dart GT
BODY:  2 door hardtop
PLANT:  Hamtramck
ENGINE:  273 V8 2bbl (LA series)
DETAIL:   
Nth auto@plant:  xxxxxx

[richard tarbox]

its got a 67 rear bumper

[austinbbmopar]

All the European cars are mutts.... ever heard of a Chrysler Viper? The have crazy side marker lights and a few things youve never seen and there was no plymouth Divsion when i was there but i did see a Chrysler Voyager.... Definatly a Dodge Caravan tho! And Shelby GT 350..... not its called a T-5 mustang.... So its probally all correct, youll just have a car that everyone will argue!

[hemi_jay]

Yeah well prepare for this - In Australia and South Africa, we get Valiant Barracudas and Valiant Chargers (Duster/Demon). Talk about confusing newcomers... Dodge Monaco was called Chrysler 383. At least all the cars have sway bars and .890 T-bars.

[rebelyelltex]

one thing that has me thrown off a bit is the quarter panels.  they are different correct?  where would you order these?  or must they be made like that by hand?

[austinbbmopar]

Are you refering to the missing marker light?

[rebelyelltex]

sorry i came in a bit late in the thread.  but how do you make the hemi quarter panels?  they look to be a bit different than the regular ones in the way that the wheel well is shaped.  yeah that dart looks like a mutt to me.

[hemicop]

 They were cut at the Hurst factory to allow for larger tires. back then narrowed rears & body work weren't allowed on S/S cars.