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swing out bar NHRA ?
« on: April 06, 2008, 07:52:14 PM »

Got all the bars welded in on the S and W 8 pt. Instructions say to verify location with local sanctioning body. Do any of you know if there are specific dimensions for swing out bars? Don't see how it would matter. I should just become an NHRA member but that doesn't help me today.

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Re: swing out bar NHRA ?
« Reply #1 on: April 06, 2008, 09:13:43 PM »

I just had one certed thurs. with a swing out. 3 the week before all good to 8.50. I think its S&W's way of CYA.
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« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2008, 09:09:57 AM »

Yep I found out they are gopod to 850
there is another kit that looks alot nicer that I'm goning to use. I wqill post a pic when I find it later today.
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« Reply #3 on: April 07, 2008, 09:12:59 AM »

Yep I found out they are gopod to 850
there is another kit that looks alot nicer that I'm goning to use. I wqill post a pic when I find it later today.

Thanks guys. What kit are you talking about smitty?
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Re: swing out bar NHRA ?
« Reply #4 on: April 07, 2008, 09:25:05 AM »

I'm pretty sure he's talking about the CLEVIS type kits. They don't rattle like the ones you showed. Chassisworks has them. One end is a weld in clevis type bung, They make 2 styles tube to tube or tube to flat steel.
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« Reply #6 on: April 07, 2008, 12:52:08 PM »

Thanks for the link. I think Andy has those. And crap. I'd rather have the clevis. I unfortunately have the side bars welded to the hoop and don't want to remove so I am committed to the cheap ones. I'll get them welded up this weekend.
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« Reply #7 on: April 07, 2008, 01:30:22 PM »

my buddy uses the clevis joints on customer cars that want the swing outs, he welds the bars in then cuts them to put the clevises in.
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« Reply #8 on: April 07, 2008, 01:30:50 PM »

I will post a pick when I get mine done
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« Reply #9 on: April 07, 2008, 03:19:04 PM »

my buddy uses the clevis joints on customer cars taht watnt the swing outs, he w3elds the bars ion then cuts them to put the clevises in.

I see what you are talking about. Instead of just welding the clevis tab to the hoop. Thanks.

Also, got a PDF of the rule book swing out section sent to me by a member. The pin must be within 8" of the hoop front and back.

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« Reply #10 on: April 11, 2008, 09:40:14 PM »

my buddy uses the clevis joints on customer cars taht watnt the swing outs, he w3elds the bars ion then cuts them to put the clevises in.

I see what you are talking about. Instead of just welding the clevis tab to the hoop. Thanks.

Also, got a PDF of the rule book swing out section sent to me by a member. The pin must be within 8" of the hoop front and back.

Tom

Hey Tom, yeah I have the clevis kits from CA.  Pretty expensive, but looks pretty nice, and worked out well.  Good deal on the 8" measurement too...   Whew
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« Reply #11 on: April 12, 2008, 02:33:03 PM »

Applied Racing Technology sells those kits too.  I used one for my removable knee bar. 
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« Reply #12 on: April 13, 2008, 10:08:24 PM »

Thanks for the ideas guys. I got the cheapo kits welded in and I did a little tweaking so there is zero slop in the joints. Shouldn't have any rattling noises.

I'll post some pics for those of you wondering if the rear seat can be used with this kit. Test fit the rear seat and get a game plan before you paint everything up. It is tight.



These seats still need to be restiched.







This S and W kit clears the arm rest by 1/4". It is touching the boulstering of the front side factory bucket seat.

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« Reply #13 on: April 13, 2008, 10:28:44 PM »

outstanding Herman.......   Popcorn
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« Reply #14 on: April 14, 2008, 12:18:02 AM »

Looks great!

What do removable door bars certify too in the quarter?
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« Reply #15 on: April 14, 2008, 07:55:20 AM »

Looks great!

What do removable door bars certify too in the quarter?

I am good to 10.00. I don't know how deep they will get you with a cage. Bigtimeauto says he is good for 8.50
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« Reply #16 on: April 14, 2008, 09:30:05 AM »

As long as the swing outs are done correctly they will cert to 8.50. I had a chassis deal in my shop a couple of weeks ago and 4 of the 8.50 cars had swing outs.
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« Reply #17 on: April 14, 2008, 09:54:27 AM »

looks good Grin
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« Reply #18 on: April 14, 2008, 04:08:54 PM »

As long as the swing outs are done correctly they will cert to 8.50. I had a chassis deal in my shop a couple of weeks ago and 4 of the 8.50 cars had swing outs.

Sorry for the thread jack Tom, but bigtime is it any swingout?  I assume your running a 12 point as well to be cert'd to 8.50?

If this is the case next winter my car is going back to the chassis shop for a cage for certain.
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« Reply #19 on: April 14, 2008, 04:13:16 PM »

MY car does not have swing outs. I don't mind climbing Smiley They have a spec. for the swing out and as long as you meet it your good. all cars need to be certed to run 9.99 and below so the swing out is good from 11.50 to 8.50. There are no swingouts allowed after 8.50 because the door opening needs to be X braced.
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« Reply #20 on: April 14, 2008, 04:27:54 PM »

MY car does not have swing outs. I don't mind climbing Smiley They have a spec. for the swing out and as long as you meet it your good. all cars need to be certed to run 9.99 and below so the swing out is good from 11.50 to 8.50. There are no swingouts allowed after 8.50 because the door opening needs to be X braced.

Excellent.  My car is going to be street/strip and I'm positive after I get it dialed in should be in the single digits.  First and for most I want my family to be able to get into without climbing.  I don't mind it, but the wife does, thus the reason I got rid of my last Mustang.
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Re: swing out bar NHRA ?
« Reply #21 on: April 14, 2008, 06:55:34 PM »

this is a S &W kit in my 66 Dart


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« Reply #22 on: May 05, 2008, 01:06:15 AM »

Are you allowed to make the cross bar behind the front seats removable like the side swing out bars, or is that a no-no by NHRA standards? 
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« Reply #23 on: May 05, 2008, 08:58:13 AM »

Are you allowed to make the cross bar behind the front seats removable like the side swing out bars, or is that a no-no by NHRA standards? 

That's not NHRA legal.
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