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disc brake kit ?
« on: April 24, 2008, 05:15:33 PM »

Anybody using this disc brake convesion kit ? the manual kit is 925.00 + 89.00 to ship


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Re: disc brake kit ?
« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2008, 12:05:20 AM »

I think using OEM parts would be cheaper, if you were going to use the manual brake set up. Folks sell the parts they removed from the 73-76 A body's as "kits" at the swaps all the time for around $250, less the master cylinder. But it is still available from Pep Boys, if you don't mind ordering it and waiting a day or two. (PN - M1627) Even the calipers can be had the same way if you don't trust what you get from them. If you boil it all down and get just the steering knuckle and upper control arm, everything else is available new short of the hardware. Your call...
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Re: disc brake kit ?
« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2008, 11:30:32 AM »

I probably have that much $$ in mine but I feel that I have a lot better system, although I think it will stop quicker than theirs I can't prove it.  Yet!

This is what I did:

71 Scamp
w/73 Dart K-Frame, UCA/LCA, Spindles
Schumacher mounts and a 383/727
Front = 11.75” Cordoba Rotors with Porsche Boxster 'S' 4 piston Calipers (Brembo).  (CNC adapter I designed)
13+ front Rotors coming and maybe brackets for sale if there is enough interest
B-Body rear narrowed w/Moser axles and MP spring relocation kit (not in Frame only .8”)
Mustang Cobra 11.69” rotors and calipers on the rear.  (CNC adapter/brackets I designed)
E-brake cables from Cobra work but drivers side had to be shortened.

Wheels & Tires:
17” x 8” x 12mm KMC Hot Wheels 68 with 255/40x17 Pirelli P Zero on the front
17” x 9” x 24mm KMC Hot Wheels 68 with 275/40x17 Pirelli P Zero on the rear
There is NO room for any more tire but then that’s the idea.  Isn’t it?  :>) 

YES, I've driven it and nothiing rubs!   Grin 
I haven't yet tested/measured stopping distances but I expect <110' from 60.  We'll see.

Note:  There are no spacers on either front or rear and I had custom centering rings CNC machined so that they are hub-centric.

These wheels are only available at Discount Tire http://www.discounttire.com

These are the same wheels Rick Ehrenberg used on the Bold Beeper.  I’m think he used 0mm offset all around.  Note:  The 17x8x12mm offset do not show up on the website but they are available!  Make the counter guys check stock.  Lucky for me my son works at Discount and he searched and found them.  These are great looking wheels for the price.

I have pics but I cannot post them until I have 10 posts (this is #10!).
You can see the rear here:
http://www.bigblockdart.com/index.php/topic,10486.0.html
Here is a question for you pros (in the business).  What's an 8-3/4 built like this worth??
PM me for pics if you like.

Scamp
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Re: disc brake kit ?
« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2008, 01:30:39 PM »

The 11 3/4" system was used on Mopar Action's "Green brick" (69 Valiant) car for the One lap of America race(s). They tested it, 60 - 0, with the OE rear drum brakes on an 8 3/4. Results: stopped in 127 ft. Not good enough? The Viper of that year stopped in 125 ft using alot more tire. That's pretty bloody good considering it was all OEM parts and no ABS.
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Re: disc brake kit ?
« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2008, 02:28:39 PM »

I agree that it's good and I have used a lot of Rick's ideas.
And Tom Condran's book.
However, because it's good doesn't mean it can't be better.
Isn't that what we are all about?  Making them better!

Scamp

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Re: disc brake kit ?
« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2008, 08:59:52 PM »

I run that setup. Stops great, a whole lot better than the 9" drums. It's reproduction OEM parts.
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