The 440+6 is in the Fury! (pics)

[1969BlackFuryConv]

Went to the shop today to pick up my car, which was in getting the brakes, suspension, sending unit and a new TCI 727 & torque converter installed. It had been running very rough since having the wiring repaired, and had been backfiring through the carb badly, developing what sounded like a lifter knock on the passenger side of the engine. Upon pulling off the valve cover, the pushrod to the #4 cylinder was bent at over a 45 degree angle, and god only knows how bad it really is. Seems like my options are the following:

1) Have the 383 rebuilt locally, for about $3000.00
2) Order a crate motor from a cheapo place for about $4000.00-$6000.00
3) Say the hell with it and throw in the 440 I've always wanted to put in anyway for a little more $$$, the guys from 440 source turned me onto a nice guy with a stroker 502 for $7K

In any case, here are my questions for you guys that know a lot more than I do.
1) Where would you order a dependable crate motor from for under 7K?
2) With a C body, do I have any special considerations to worry about if I'm going to upgrade the power plant?
3) My car is more of a cruiser / daily driver, and not meant to be raced at all, but I don't mind putting in some more umph, so is a 440 too much?
4) If I do go with getting my engine rebuilt, should I ask for anything special to be done to the block other than baking, magnafluxing, & inspection?
5) Any other advice you guys can offer is greatly appreciated, I'm a little out of my depth here....

[1969BlackFuryConv]

BTW, here are the places I've been shopping for engines -

BlueprintEngines.com - has a 440 ready to go, will ship to an auto zone near me, part #C4400C, cost is $1845+$500 core.

MaundMotorworks.com - offers a 383 with Eddy heads for $4900, or a stock 440 for $3450, six to eight weeks build time.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=370073585305 is an ebay auction with a 440 that could be ready in 2 weeks for $4895+200 shipping

RebuiltCrateEngines.com (and a mirror site PrecisionEngine.com) which is really ICT Engines from Houston, TX offer several options, including a 383 for $2499.00, a 440 GTX for $3699.00, or a 440 Magnum for $2899.00, all plus core and delivery charges.

Finally, Scott Foster of Mopar Mafia was referred to me by the guys at 440 Source, has a 440 Stroker motor, he's just waiting on new heads for it, he says it puts out about 550HP / 600ftlbs and that's about 7K

Any reccomendations of where to go are greatly appreciated.

[Jim_Lusk]

Nothing wrong with building your 383 or swapping in a 440. Personally I'd pull the 383, put it on a stand, and pull the heads for a look. You should be able to rebuild the short block for $1,500 (assembly included) and the heads for another $500. Keep it mild for a C-body cruiser.

[farmington]

If it was mine and I just wanted a cruiser... I'd look for a running, stock 383-400 or 440 and just drop it in.  Clean the outside, paint it and go.  If possible find one thats still in a car so you can see how it runs.  A late 400 that will run on regular unleaded gas would be perfect.  All of your brackets, exhaust, etc will work.  Probably can find one similar in the $300-$400 range.  A decent big block will run almost forever if maintained properly.

[mrpatel]

I just bought a stroker 511 (400 block) from Muscle motors in MI for around $6K included roller cam, pan, chain etc. minus heads and Intake carb. It was going to cost me $5K to rebuild my 383. I was very reasonably priced and I am happy so far with it.
http://musclemotorsracing.com/m/

[68_Val_Sedan]

put a 440 in it ... those big cars love big motors ...

[1969BlackFuryConv]

So I decided to say the hell with it and break open the piggybank with an uzi. I ordered a 440 long block from precisionengine.com, the 440 Magnum version, and then went on to order the brand new six pack intake, carbs, air cleaner, linkage & cables from Summit. I also got the new March Performance v belt system with their billet power steering pump, and ordered a new wiring harness & dynamat which can be put in while the car is waiting about 2 weeks for the engine to arrive. It's a damn good thing I'm not married with kids, .

At least I'll have one of the only 440+6 69 Fury's on the planet. Now I'm wondering if the hood will close or if I have to cut it, and if I need a vacuum canister? 

[68_Val_Sedan]

I bet the six pack will fit ... the performer RPM on my 68 fit with tons of room to spare ....

[ksdartguy]

So I decided to say the hell with it and break open the piggybank with an uzi. I ordered a 440 long block from precisionengine.com, the 440 Magnum version, and then went on to order the brand new six pack intake, carbs, air cleaner, linkage & cables from Summit. I also got the new March Performance v belt system with their billet power steering pump, and ordered a new wiring harness & dynamat which can be put in while the car is waiting about 2 weeks for the engine to arrive. It's a damn good thing I'm not married with kids, .

At least I'll have one of the only 440+6 69 Fury's on the planet. Now I'm wondering if the hood will close or if I have to cut it, and if I need a vacuum canister?

Great!!
I had a six pack once I put it on a 340 duster and it went under the hood.
Ought to be a healthy C body.

Rick

[coors00]

http://www.cmengines.com/
have a look.

[67Dart34dr0]

So I decided to say the hell with it and break open the piggybank with an uzi. I ordered a 440 long block from precisionengine.com, the 440 Magnum version, and then went on to order the brand new six pack intake, carbs, air cleaner, linkage & cables from Summit. I also got the new March Performance v belt system with their billet power steering pump, and ordered a new wiring harness & dynamat which can be put in while the car is waiting about 2 weeks for the engine to arrive. It's a damn good thing I'm not married with kids, .

At least I'll have one of the only 440+6 69 Fury's on the planet. Now I'm wondering if the hood will close or if I have to cut it, and if I need a vacuum canister? 

Good thing it ain't a '70 or you'd be competing with stock cars for rarity.

I'd say that should be a pretty fun car. I'd think that if they could fit a six-pak snug under a '70 Charger hood, you should be set for clearance.

[1969BlackFuryConv]

Parts are ordered, everything is underway, I'm guessing it'll be about 20 days or so until I get her back. I think this cinches it, I'm never parting with this one. 

I'm pretty excited, I've never driven a Mopar 440+6, I think it's definitely going to turn a few heads when I pop the hood! 

[67Dart34dr0]

Parts are ordered, everything is underway, I'm guessing it'll be about 20 days or so until I get her back. I think this cinches it, I'm never parting with this one. 

I'm pretty excited, I've never driven a Mopar 440+6, I think it's definitely going to turn a few heads when I pop the hood! 

Definitely, as if it doesn't already.

Do you have to run a front plate? I take advantage of the lack of 'em in my neck o' the woods with a scat pack plate, just to distenguish it from every other 4 door '67 dual exhaust "273 4 barrel" Dart around here.

[1969BlackFuryConv]

Unfortunately in the people's republik of NY you have to run a front plate. My old plate was 69383V8, but now I'm thinking of either 440@6V8, SIXPAK69, or 6PACK@69. The @ symbol is the small NY state emblem, and I checked them out on the NYSDMV site, they're all available. I'd love to have a scat pack plate, but until I move to a more reasonable part of the country, I'm stuck, .

[ksdartguy]

Unfortunately in the people's republik of NY you have to run a front plate. My old plate was 69383V8, but now I'm thinking of either 440@6V8, SIXPAK69, or 6PACK@69. The @ symbol is the small NY state emblem, and I checked them out on the NYSDMV site, they're all available. I'd love to have a scat pack plate, but until I move to a more reasonable part of the country, I'm stuck, .

  Sorry about NY. Not the best place for a big ol Mopar 
Good luck on the 440-6 though. Should be a fun car.

Rick   

[67Dart34dr0]

Ah, didn't notice NY. Poor guy.  I'd say that should be a blast to drive given what those extra ponies will do for that lug.

[bbscamp]

Man...I wish I would have seen this thread earlier.  I've got a completely rebuilt balanced 69 440 ready to go, with no car to install it into.  It was slated for the chally, but that's sold now.
AND I"m in NJ!!!!

[tomthumb]

i have a 1968 coronet R/T i put the cast iron heavy intake on it with a sixpack 214/181 valves KB pistons 509 cam 8degrees advanced the center carb has 63 jets from the factory went to 69 jets becouse the center was to lean from the factory 355 gears and stock 68 hp manafolds no hesatation at all runs 8.10 in 1/8th with regular bf goodriches the sixpack is a wonderful street car when set up right

[doug 371]

awesome car shane 

[jp260z]

I like your fury too Shane. Looks like a real fun car....

Jay

[NYrr496]

I love your car.  Like they said in Hot Rod The Movie, ALWAYS fix it faster.

Where in NY are you?  I'm on LI and I work in the city.

[1969BlackFuryConv]

Thanks for all the compliments guys!!! I'm in Yonkers, NY - Just 20 mins north of Manhattan, but still "upstate" in lower Westchester county. If there's anything going on around here, definitely shoot me a message, I'd love to go! I went up to Naugatuck CT yesterday for a concert at Cooks Cafe and was surprised to see the annual car show going on there, lots of cool rides, including a 340+6 Cuda and a supercharged Charger! As soon as the work is done on my car I'll post new pics here too!

[NYrr496]

Know what would look SICK on your car?  Those billet Magnum 500 wheels in 17".

[1969BlackFuryConv]

They make an 18" version of those magnum wheels now, which I'd love to thow on with some redline tires, but I'm going to wait until I upgrade all the brakes to disc because the backspacing may be different and they're about $500-$600 each rim

[Q-ship]

Even though you have a new engine in the works, don't assume that your 383 is "blown up" just because of some bent pushrods. It's very easy to bend a pushrod or two in these engines, and usually only requires replacing them with straight ones in order to be "good as new".

I only point this out so that you don't trash a possibly (probably) perfectly good engine.

[instrument]

Damn your going to be a busy happy guy for days to come. grats on your 440 decision.

[chryco]

So I decided to say the hell with it and break open the piggybank with an uzi. I ordered a 440 long block from precisionengine.com, the 440 Magnum version, and then went on to order the brand new six pack intake, carbs, air cleaner, linkage & cables from Summit. I also got the new March Performance v belt system with their billet power steering pump, and ordered a new wiring harness & dynamat which can be put in while the car is waiting about 2 weeks for the engine to arrive. It's a damn good thing I'm not married with kids, .

At least I'll have one of the only 440+6 69 Fury's on the planet. Now I'm wondering if the hood will close or if I have to cut it, and if I need a vacuum canister? 

Everything will clear no problem. They came factory , didn`t they Ihad a 440 6bbl. in this car ......lots o fun !
   Chryco

[kenny b]

back in the early 80's when I was working at the local chrysler dealership I put together a 1971 Newport with a 440 six pack. It was bright red with a white leather interior. I was the tranny man so I did my own trans with a 3200 stall converter and 8 3/4 4:10 gears. Nothing like going to the local strip on cruise night and kicking some butt. The small block camaro's going 12:90's and low 13:00's got beaten by a land yacht. After a couple of weeks I finally opened the hood for them to see what made this thing tick. I had a lot of fun with that car. And, Oh yes, the hood closed nicely with the six pack breather in place. Even the factory installed eight track player worked in the car.

kenny b

[1969BlackFuryConv]

Got the block in yesterday, I'll put some photos up tonight, it looks sick!

From what I understand, you could get the 440+6 in the Fury starting in 1970, known as the Sport Fury GT, and they're VERY rare, only 666 ever made. Since the 69-70 body is essentially the same, apart from the nose and tail, I think that it should fit with no problems!

I tell ya, I can't wait to have her back on the road, I've had to drive a '08 chevy cobalt rental car for the last month, a true piece of crap that I wouldn't pawn off on my worst enemy. Chevy used to make halfway decent cars, but this is SO bad it's insane!

[67Dart34dr0]

I think most of those full sizes do not look good with big rims, probably because a lot of the wheel wells were designed to form around the wheels perfectly. Some of those later '70s/'80s cars look good with big rims, but not the land yachts...

440s came factory since '67 in C-cars. The six-pak isn't too drastic of a change.