Thinking of buying a Tundra.

[73swinger]

My dad loves his 03 Tundra so much that he bought out his lease on it. I would consider one if I were looking for a gas engine but IMHO nothing can touch a Cummins Ram

[abodyjoe]

How did the economy get to b the way it is?........by all of us buying foreign stuff,

  maybe if the big three gave the public what they wanted in the 70's and 80's instead of the garbage they built and tried to shove down our throats the the american people wouldn't have gone to foeign cars.   bottom line is that the big three have no one to blame but themselves.

.............So then Joe ur saying u want to get rid of ur garbage 71 dodge, if not y would u want garbage laying around?......kim......

  that garbage 71 dart of mine isn't a daily driver. its a neat old car that i like to tinker with. i wouldn't use it as a daily driver. i did 12 or so years ago but that got old fast too.  my daily driver is a toyota. been very happy with the car. i have fun with my old mopars. but i also am not the entire population either.  come on, us car guys are a minority. most people don't care  anything about old cars. they just use a car as transportation. thats what i was saying and i believe you know exactly what i was talking about. look at the junk that built in the 70's and 80's by the big three. you can't possibly believe that they were good cars.  late 80's they started to get better but that was way too late. way too many families already went jap.  and from there generations of those families went jap as those cars were handed down. gonna take a long ass time for the big three to over come the  jap cars for just that reason. the big three build allot better car now but that sour taste is still is peoples mout from the junk the big three put out years ago. 

[oldkimmer]

...........Sorry Joe,   for calling your car garbage, I had no right to do that.....every1s old mopar is their pride and joy.....I do know that the Japs had /have a superior vehical to most anything the big three put out[even now]..Its just tough to swallow our pride........kim.........

[abodyjoe]

ahhh.  don't sweat it. it was a figure of speach.  and for the record it is a rust bucket..

[gsmagnum]

Just for you guys/gals with Tacomas:

http://blog.toyota.com/2008/03/living-up-to-ou.html

Make sure you go to the dealer to get your frames checked.

Wonder how good the T-100/Tundra frames are.

[Thin White Duke]

Man, you'd NEVER catch a big 3 company posting something like that.  I must give Toyota credit for doing the right thing.

[Dcuda69]

late 80's they started to get better but that was way too late. way too many families already went jap.  and from there generations of those families went jap as those cars were handed down. gonna take a long ass time for the big three to over come the  jap cars for just that reason. the big three build allot better car now but that sour taste is still is peoples mout from the junk the big three put out years ago.

 
 Couldn't have said it better! Too many people think the big 3 make junk,because of the 70's and 80's. I'm an auto tech and I can tell you they all have problems. They are all junk,I don't care whose name is on the emblem!  I have a Chrysler LHS(2000) bought new,now has 96K on it. 1 set tires, and 1 battery, thats it. Pretty good in my books,but someone will tell you that car is a POS. Good luck trying to figure what is good and what is American made!!

[67Dart34dr0]

My Dart's had problems from it's reassembly, but all the original parts that were untouched are still great. The fact that some of these parts held up to 6+ years of running unbalanced is amazing. It was drag raced, beaten the shit out of, daily driven, and now it's starting to get a break and getting some time to get redone, the right way.

Yes, American manufacturers do make some engines out of county. (5.7/6.1, aluminum blocks) But at the same time they still make a lot here in the U.S. but the big thing isn't being made in the U.S. that helps our economy but being designed and headed in the U.S. When you buy American, the money goes back to CEOs, designers, engineers, marketing, line workers, and more in the U.S. and line workers in other nations. It doesn't really have as big of an impact that some of these jobs are in other countries, it's the fact that the big jobs are here in the U.S. that is important. By supporting Toyota, Honda, Hyundai, and Kia the money leaves the U.S. in much larger amounts. Both Japan and S. Korea are pretty well against importing American goods, it's simply ridiculous that this great nation bothers to trade with their governments. They go against their people in some instances, but as long as they can screw this nation over they have no qualms whatsoever. So maybe you would rather have your engine assembled in the U.S., then get a 4.7.

The real biggun is that Chrysler, Ford, and G.M. all stand behind their 40+ year old cars, which is why I truly believe the lifetime warranty. Lots of foreign companies barely stand behind their new cars...

My favorite thing is seeing high mileage well maintained 70s/80s cars. They weren't pretty (still much prettier than most foreign cars) but many were still made fairly well here in the U.S.  My favorite was a 770k Aspen 318, carb rebuilt at 150k and simply maintained. How junky those cars are never ceases to amaze me.  And now those late 70s/80s are going up in value as the "dream crowd" transitions from the pre-emissions cars and their end-run relatives.

[abodyjoe]

By supporting Toyota, Honda, Hyundai, and Kia the money leaves the U.S.

  so the 600,000 or so americans that toyota employs here are gonna get jobs where if we stop buying them. the big three gonna hire them?  doubt it. toyota and honda employ quite a bit of americans, hell they are building plants while the big three are closing them. they build allot of models here so you have all the factory workers. then you have the salesman and the mechanics. its funny when anyone brings that stupid arguement up they they seem to forget about those people. they need food on their table also you know.

The real biggun is that Chrysler, Ford, and G.M. all stand behind their 40+ year old cars, which is why I truly believe the lifetime warranty. Lots of foreign companies barely stand behind their new cars...

  the big warranty is just a gimmic to sell cars. it really has nothing to do with them believing in their product.  Hyundai started that 10 year/100,000 warranty to suck people in because they were selling  junk for years. it got people into the dealership and people to buy them again. thats all it is. a way to draw people in to sell cars. 

[Adam]

Don't know if it's true and I can't verify it but I heard that there is more American labor and parts in a new Toyota Tundra than a GM Fullsize.

When I get parts from work to put on customer's vehicles (GM dealer), it's astonishing how many parts say "Made in China" or Mexico or Brazil or Korea or wherever on them. So don't assume that by buying from the big three that you're doing the best thing you can for the North American automotive industry and economy.

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[ski]

I'm pretty sure Toyota has about as many assembly plants in the USA as Ford does.  (12 or 13?) I also read somewhere recently that 60% of the vehicles they sell in the USA are assembled here.  Like said above a high number of components on all cars are made outside the US.  What about the folks who bought Chrysler products when they were owned by Daimeler, did they by foreign cars?  All the Toyotas I have owned were built within 200 miles of where I live.  I like them.

[67Dart34dr0]

Even under Daimler most of the design, etc. staff was here in the U.S.

A lot of the factories have moved out of the country and most are pretty well stuck there, but they do deal a lot with the U.A.W. unlike a certain other company...