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AMC alterktion
« on: June 13, 2009, 06:04:09 PM »

OK - - here we go.  I've got this nice bodied 67 amc Rebel.  The front end seems to have a littel wobble that I havent' investigated yet.  But just thinking ahead,  I wondering about alternative front ends for this car.  Would an alterktion fit?     The AMC still uses and upper trunnion and 4 wheel drums.  so if I upgrade, it will be for something modern.  Any thoughts?
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« Reply #1 on: June 13, 2009, 07:40:32 PM »

i'm sure if you take the measurements bill can weld up one for you.
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« Reply #2 on: June 13, 2009, 11:30:31 PM »

Crown Vic front end, maybe?
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« Reply #3 on: June 13, 2009, 11:41:07 PM »

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Re: AMC alterktion
« Reply #4 on: June 14, 2009, 10:57:09 AM »

Its a unibody car, no frame like the Vic.   Its got weird trunnions and a coil spring up into the shock towers.  Not much aftermarket stuff is available for it.
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« Reply #5 on: June 14, 2009, 11:25:43 AM »

Its a unibody car, no frame like the Vic.   Its got weird trunnions and a coil spring up into the shock towers.  Not much aftermarket stuff is available for it.
An F body: (good cheap coil-over swap thread)
http://grassrootsmotorsports.com/forum/grm/crown-victoria-suspension-question/9244/page1/
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« Reply #6 on: June 14, 2009, 01:47:31 PM »

Its a unibody car, no frame like the Vic.   Its got weird trunnions and a coil spring up into the shock towers.  Not much aftermarket stuff is available for it.

70 and up front suspension is different
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Re: AMC alterktion
« Reply #7 on: June 15, 2009, 09:20:36 PM »

Bill???  ever look under a pre-70 AMC???

Hmmmm.  Rebel convertible, 440/727 with AlterKtion and Lynx rear setup??    Cheers
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« Reply #8 on: June 15, 2009, 09:48:16 PM »

Bill???  ever look under a pre-70 AMC???

Hmmmm.  Rebel convertible, 440/727 with AlterKtion and Lynx rear setup??    Cheers
I dunno. I think a 500" AMC-727 would be a better combo.  Grin
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« Reply #9 on: June 15, 2009, 10:00:12 PM »

Maybe look into the mustang stuff. There is a company called chassis works. They offer a frontend kit for the mustanges that under there  total control brand name. It is kind of expensive in my book but it is an idea.
We have put it on a mustang and a couger. It is nice stuff.
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« Reply #10 on: June 16, 2009, 01:02:20 AM »

Could probably get some parts to use a Mustang II suspension in it.  Dunno
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« Reply #11 on: June 23, 2009, 10:48:07 PM »

Dr. Bill Reilly???  any comment?     Popcorn
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Re: AMC alterktion
« Reply #12 on: June 24, 2009, 10:35:13 AM »

...I've looked under a few, and at a number of photos. Theres enough room and enough mounting points to do something cool. If I had one, I'd probably tackle it, if anything just for the cool factor. I don't really know what the market is or how many years a design would fit though.
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« Reply #13 on: June 24, 2009, 01:02:27 PM »

From what I "think" I know, the Rebel was the midsize chasses and the same suspension was used 67 - 70.  Eldubb know's best on this one.

I've been on the AMC forum and nothing exists for these cars. I have some picts of a rebel getting Jag. front end parts, but its an undertaking.  Most AMC'ers seem content to install disk brakes on the drum spindles, swap bar and call it a day.   I like the idea of a rear link/coil over and a full front end swap too.   

The existing motor is a 343 tied to a BorgWarner trans.  Lots of guys bolt on a 727 trans.  I don't know for sure, but I think an AMC 727 is externatlly diff. than a Mopar 727. I need to research it more.   I think it would be cool to go with a 440 BB / 727.  Not AMC pure, but I've got the motor already.  Rear?  8.75 would work.  not sure of the width though.  Probably a B body.

If you want to do an AMC....let me know offline.  I'm interested.  I would even send my car up to you for a "developmental visit".
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« Reply #14 on: June 24, 2009, 01:08:05 PM »

The major diff AMC and Chrysler 727 is just the mounting.

360s are cheap, parts for 360s are available, 360s can go REALLY fast. INDY makes AMC parts. I suggest you take a look at what Indy could do for a $200 Wagoneer motor before deciding to go Chrysler BB.

There's a cool chart on the web somewhere on where to get a bolt-in 8-3/4" from to use in any given AMC.

I'd suggest taking loads of measurements, there is likely a cheap easy bolt-in suspension swap available.
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« Reply #15 on: June 24, 2009, 03:22:54 PM »

put a big block chevy in it and a back half with ladder bars and coilovers, up front do a strut front end.
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« Reply #16 on: June 24, 2009, 06:23:47 PM »

put a big block chevy in it and a back half with ladder bars and coilovers, up front do a strut front end.
I've seen a lot of real quick AMC engines. If 1000 hp isn't enough, power-adders can fill in the blanks.

(limit around 512ci on the AMC engines, for this build a cheap 360 with some Indy parts would likely be enough)
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« Reply #17 on: June 24, 2009, 09:42:50 PM »

cheap and indy  LOL
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« Reply #18 on: June 24, 2009, 11:37:46 PM »

cheap and indy  LOL
Cheap is the purchase of the engine. Wagoneer 360s go for dirt.
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