upper ball joint removal (help please)

[6ix5ive]

Hello everybody

I have two questions which will probably can be categorized in the "bone head category". 

1)  I am trying to remove the control arm upper ball joints on my 1965 Barracuda with the larger ball joint socket (1973 and up A body (ø = 1.915")) and I can not get them to budge.  Does anybody know any tricks to getting these off.  I have been using a large breaker bar and have soaked the joints in oil.  Is there anything else I can do? 

2) My car is a 1965 barracuda with a disc brake upgrade.  I need to rebuild the front end but I need to verify the year of my front end.  As I mentioned above the Upper control arm is from a 1973 and up A body.  Since the upper control arm is from a 1973 and up A body is it safe to assume I can order a 1973 and up rebuild kit for the front end?  Or are some of the front end parts interchangeable with 1966-1972 A body front end parts?

Thank you for any help and have a good day

[70dart408]

                      Leaving the upper control arm attached to the car I used some stuff call
                      PB Blaster and let it sit over night. Next day went out using the special
                      socket with a half inch breaker bar and a cheater bar on the end and both
                      of mine came right out. (70 Dart Swinger)     Good luck with yours!!!

[Jim_Lusk]

You need to use an impact OR a LONG breaker bar (4-5 feet). You need the rebuild kit for the 73, EXCEPT the pitman and idler arms. They need to be for the 65.

[sweatybetty]

i use a small torch with a fat flame to heat stuff but not too hot then spray some penetrating oil. the heat expands the part a bit allowing the oil in the gap. you may want to get some other opinions on heating control arms though.  anyone else?

[Lars]

Use an impact, that'll get them out. That's what I had to do to my 73.

[A13Dart]

My socket is 3/4 drive and I use a breaker bar and long pipe like Jim says. Had to use a map gas torch on one project. When using the cheater it is nice if someone can hold the socket flush on the ball joint.


mike.

[dmn71]

Same as 70dart408, worked for me on the 71 demon.  Steve

[Halfaed]

Use heat and then candle wax in it! 
Doesn't stink so bad.

[rank]

Are you sure somebody hasn't welded the ball joint to the UCA?

[krabysniper]

Only a TOTAL MORON would weld the balljoint to the control arm, and I do mean TOTAL

[mopartranman]

Impact shoud do it. Or use a long breaker bar for leverage.  Well... I must be a total moron.  Cause i tack weld them in when i replace them on drag cars. Seen several pop out race cars that carry the front wheels alot.

[GregZ]

Impact shoud do it. Or use a long breaker bar for leverage.  Well... I must be a total moron.  Cause i tack weld them in when i replace them on drag cars. Seen several pop out race cars that carry the front wheels alot.

  I've tack welded a few myself.