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Balancer Rubbing On Timing Chain Cover??
« on: June 16, 2006, 12:16:51 PM »

finally got the motor reassembled and back into the car last night.  we primed everything prior to starting.  we got it fired after a few minutes.  all was fine, smooth idle, no hesitations, etc.  after a few minutes we started to hear a whirring (faint whistle Undecided) sound. 

we checked belt, pullies, etc.  after checking all obvious items (and refiring to check each), we determined the noise was coming from the front of the block somewhere.  we pulled the balancer, as it sound like it was from/within the t-chain cover.  fired it up and just let it idle.  noise was gone.  so i'm hoping that it's the balancer rubbing on the t-chain cover.  i thought i had it all aligned (centered in the hole), but perhaps not.  i had the balancer in place when i snugged the cover up to better the alignment.  any tricks to getting the cover centered?  anyone else experience this?

i put sil-glide on the balancer for lube prior to installing.  perhaps all was fine upon initial start-up, then with the cover not centered around the balancer it allowed one area of the seal to lose its lubrication  Huh

any thoughts?   thanks in advance.
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« Reply #1 on: June 16, 2006, 01:42:23 PM »

Hi,
  If its a big block you might have the oil slinger installed facing the wrong way & rubbing on the timing chain.
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Re: Balancer Rubbing On Timing Chain Cover??
« Reply #2 on: June 16, 2006, 02:14:56 PM »

oh, forgot to mention.  360.
is it a big deal if no oil slinger is installed?  when i purchased the car, there was no slinger installed.  to be honest, i just learned that slingers existed last night when someone (much smarter than me) pointed it out......   slingers used on both small and big blocks?  sorry if that's a bad question. 
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« Reply #3 on: June 16, 2006, 02:31:40 PM »

Hi,
  I'm new to Mopars also, but I think that only the big blocks have the oil slingers. Maybe someone else will give you a few idea's of what else to look for. Good Luck
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Re: Balancer Rubbing On Timing Chain Cover??
« Reply #4 on: June 16, 2006, 04:02:52 PM »

I know every small block I've taken apart had oil slingers.  Doesn't it help prevent oil leaking out of the front seal?  I think all mopar engines have them.  In fact, they might even be the same part for all mopar engines.  Just a hunch though.
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« Reply #5 on: June 16, 2006, 07:55:27 PM »

oil slingers are just that, every motor Iv opened up has them even slant six wedge motors. the idea is to help oil the timing chain
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« Reply #6 on: June 16, 2006, 09:31:10 PM »

Are you sure the outer ring of the balancer did not slip backwards?  Or did you happen to use a longer bolt on the crank pulley?  I would inspect the outside of the timing cover very well to make sure nothing is rubbing.  Lewis
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« Reply #7 on: June 17, 2006, 01:16:07 PM »

after looking around a bit, i believe the oil slinger is the same for all engines.

we checked the bolt clearance of all pullies to make sure that nothing was rubbing.  that was what we were hoping for.....  with my luck, that would've been too easy.

the car has been driveable 3 times, and i never had oil coming out the bottom of the timing chain cover.  i wonder how much oil the slinger actually keeps from leaking.  also, with its design, i'd be curious to see how much it actually lubes the timing chain.  maybe it sort of works like a baffle to keep oil backed up at the timing chain.

laysons doesn't "have them available right now". looks like paddock carries them.  anyother places where people purchase theirs?  i'm sure that local places wouldn't stock them.

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Re: Balancer Rubbing On Timing Chain Cover??
« Reply #8 on: June 17, 2006, 01:49:31 PM »

i've run bigblocks without the oil slinger, and never had a problem with the front seal leaking.  I've been told buy some older and wiser fellas than if your running a double roller chain it will sling enough oil around so that the oil slinger isnt really needed.  Dunno what to tell you about the noise, if something is rubbing then there will probably be a witness mark somewhere.
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« Reply #9 on: June 17, 2006, 02:34:12 PM »

i had a simalar problem with my march pulleys the bolt for the sloted hole was to long and rubbed the timing cover
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